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Stefan N.
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Hello,

after a longer time, I'm back with some new feedback:

I'm still using an Eyefinity setup (3x1) with Win 7. Win 7 has the built in feature that if you drag a window to the upper edge of the desktop, the window gets maximized on the corresponding screen. This also works for your "simulated" monitors when using Eyefinity, but there is one problem:

Some time ago, you implemented a workaround for progs like oTunes & eM Client which do not use the default maximize routine, but it's own. You worked around this issue: to "maximize" the window, you have to double click the title bar, and double clicking again resizes the window back to ~75% (centered).

This mechanism does not work together with the Aero Snap function described above (as this always calls the maximize function). Therefore it would perfect if I would have a setting for the simulated screens in Eyefinity mode that Aero Snap does not lead to a maximize of the corresponding window, but only resizes it to 100%. The window would still be in "windowed" mode, but at 100%. Then the issue described above with some progs like iTunes etc. would not occur any more. StarMoney 9.0 for example does not work at all with Eyefinity, it is even maximized to all three monitors instead of one :-(

Do you think this would be possible, maybe as Advanced configuration feature?
Aug 23, 2015 (modified Aug 23, 2015)  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Actually, we are making some changes to the next beta that should actually do this :)

I will let you know as soon as it's available to try out.

Thanks!
Aug 24, 2015  • #2
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Stefan N.
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That's good news, so I will impatiently wait for the next BETA :)
Aug 24, 2015  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Just a quick heads up, this issue should be all fixed up in the next beta :)

It should hopefully be available early next week. Please let me know if you still have any trouble after it's available.

Thanks!
Aug 28, 2015  • #4
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Stefan N.
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Hi Keith,

just tested this out yesterday. In general, it looks good, but where there is much light the shadow is deep ;-) Just kidding, but I found some (minor) issues that shold be adressed:

- The function does not work for Firefox, it is always spanned across all 3 screens (instead of the one it should be when being dragged to the top of the screen). Same seems also to be for StarMoney 9.0, always maximized.

- Adobe Reader is always placed on my left screen, even when I drag it to the top of the middle or right screen...

- Some programs struggle with this new function, i. e. switching between your simulated windowed and simulated "fullscreen" does not work. Programs I have identified so far:
* eM Client (clicking on the maximize/windowed button always maximizes instead of toggling, only double clicking the title bar works so far)
* StarMoney 9.0 (does it have its own logic for maximizing?)
* Office 2013 (behaviour: see eM Client)

- When using the "span window across all monitors" feature / title bar button, the window gets "maximized" to all screens, but then there's no way back to the former "windowed" size. Clicking on the maximize/windowed title bar button has no effect. It would probably be better if the old "windowed" size could be restored, at least this is what the user would expect.

- When dragging a window first to the top of a screen so that the screen is shadowed and the monitor number is displayed) and then between my 3 monitors 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 (from left to right), the window sometimes "jumps". Seems to have to do something with the bezel correction. When dragging it from right (2.3) to the middle (2.2), it jumps from 2.3 to 2.1 (left one) as soon as the mouse cursor reaches the "dead zone" between 2.2. and 2.3. When I continue dragging it to the left, it is moved to 2.2 as soon as I leave the bezel area and the mouse cursor is on 2.2... So summed up the issue is that the space between the monitors (bezel area) seems to be assigned to the left monitor and therefore the window jumps. It would be better if the bezel would always be assigned to a nearby monitor.

- When dragging a window first to the top of a screen, the screen is "shadowed" and the monitor number is displayed in big white letters. When I then start moving the winow quickly around my screens, the "shadow" effect is lost and it is just black with the white letter (2.1, 2.2 or 2.3). See attached images.

- I use the function to display my Eyefinity wallpaper also for the logon screen. However, there it has severe banding, seems like the wallpaper would not be displayed with the full color depth. Is the logon screen only 16 bit or sth. like that? After logging on, the wallpaper looks fine... Can make a screenshot if necessary...

All tests with Windows 7 x64 Home Premium and AMD Eyefinity setup.

Best regards

Stefan
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Sep 5, 2015 (modified Sep 5, 2015)  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Some of the splitting issues should be fixed up with the next beta :)

Regarding the logon screen image, Windows 7 limits the image file size to something ridiculously small, so we have to heavily compress the image for the logon screen :(

Regarding those issues with the monitor selector, they are on our list as well :)

Thanks for the feedback as always!
Sep 11, 2015  • #6
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've just posted 7.3 Beta 6 over the weekend. Could you give it a try and let me know if you still run into issues with maximizing some apps to splits?
Sep 14, 2015  • #7
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Stefan N.
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Hi Keith,

just updated to the latest stable release of DF, here the results of my tests:

1. Still not working for latest version of Firefox: Double clicking the title bar or dragging to another monitor pseudo-maximizes correctly, but dragging it to the top still spans over all 3 screens :-(

2. Adobe Reader issue seems to be fixed :-)

3. eM Client & Office fixed, StarMoney still not working.

4. Not yet working (maybe more feature request than bug?)

5. Not fixed yet :-(

6. Unfortunately this issue still exists. I also found another issue regarding this function: It happens regularly that when I start dragging a window, this feature (fading the screen to black and displaying the display number 2.1 etc.) is not activated. I have to repeat the drag several times until it gets activated again...

7. Not a bug, will have to use smaller wallpaper :P

Best regards

Stefan
Sep 27, 2015  • #8
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! I've confirmed 3, 4, and 5, and the other things that are still broken are also on our list. I'll be sure to let you know when these are fixed up :)
Oct 6, 2015  • #9
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Stefan N.
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Hi Keith,

regarding Issue 1 with Firefox, this seems to be caused by another (new) issues. It happens when the DF multi monitor drag logic does not work (fade screen and display 2.1 etc.). Then DF does not "recognize" the virtual screen where I drag the window to and therefore spans it over all. If the logic works (randomly), then maximizing to a single screen works nice. Sometimes when dragging windows, this is not recognized by DF and the screen selector does not appear. Can you confirm this?

Best regards

Stefan
Oct 27, 2015  • #10
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Aha! I can indeed reproduce that. The issue is that Firefox has a weird titlebar. If you drag near the very top of Firefox (anywhere above the bottom of the caption buttons) it works, because this is actually the caption bar, so DF can detect it as a caption bar drag. If you grab the Firefox window in the area that's on the same level as the tabs (below the bottom of the caption buttons), it doesn't work.

I've put that on our list to see if there's anything we can do from our end to fix that up :)
Oct 28, 2015  • #11
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Jeopardy
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Related to this, I wonder would it be possible to include the old maximize behaviour as a setting in the advanced options or something when using Nvidia surround / Eyefinity? Or maybe add some app specific options for maximizing method? I really dislike the way Chrome hogs up extra space when it is not "properly" maximized. This is the only reason I have not updated past 7.3 beta 2...

I do understand that some applications misbehave when using the old method, but personally I haven't run into any of these applications, so it wouldn't matter for me.

Thanks!
Nov 2, 2015 (modified Nov 2, 2015)  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Unfortunately they're two completely separate methods of hooking and processing the windows, and when we re-wrote it this way, the old code was removed from the hooks. It's not something that we can add back in without adding a ton of complexity (and probably bugs!) to the hooks. Sorry :(
Nov 5, 2015  • #13
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Stefan N.
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Hi Keith, any update on the issues mentioned above?
Dec 18, 2015  • #14
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Not yet, sorry!
Dec 18, 2015  • #15
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've just released a new DisplayFusion beta version (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/) and the issue where the window jumps to a different split when dragged should be all fixed up. Please let us know if you run into any trouble after updating.

Thanks!
Aug 3, 2016  • #16
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Stefan N.
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Ok fine, I'll check that.

Any update also on the other issues?
Aug 3, 2016  • #17
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Not yet :)
Aug 3, 2016  • #18
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've just released a new DisplayFusion Beta version and the issue where the monitor selector overlay turned black while dragging a window is all fixed up. Please let us know if you run into any trouble after updating.

Thanks!
Apr 16, 2020  • #19
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