DisplayFusion RSS: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509 DisplayFusion RSS: MSN black window bug is back Sun, 14 Jun 2026 12:15:49 GMT en hourly 1 https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509 RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#62 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:16:37 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#62 DisplayFusion Excellent - I put a lot of time into Beta 14 over the last couple of days. Cleaned it up, and tested it like crazy. I'm glad to hear it was worth it. I'll mark this topic as "complete" now, but please feel free to re-post if you have any more issues. Thanks! :) ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#61 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:06:28 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#61 DisplayFusion Holy crap Jon, I don't know what you did but Beta 14 totally fixed the black bars problem for me as well as other minimizing problems :D. THANK YOU! ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#60 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:00:15 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#60 DisplayFusion 8-) yep. Don't what you did there, but the redraw of the open windows is gone, and with it the black boxes...

:-D ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#59 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:02 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#59 DisplayFusion I saw your post, glad to hear the transitions are working. Does that mean no more black windows when the wallpaper changes? ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#58 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:51:20 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#58 DisplayFusion it's win 7. No problem to uninstall WB. I'll get back to you on that.

PS

Guess i'll wait a bit now see post: transitions ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#57 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:48:46 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#57 DisplayFusion @petrossa: Is this in WinXP or something newer? Are you still using WindowBlinds? I am using an nVidia card with WinXP and Win7, and have never had this problem. I'm using an ATI card in another test machine without this problem as well. Would you be able to test without WindowBlinds, or is it difficult to remove/re-install? ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#56 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:19:25 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#56 DisplayFusion with latest drivers i see the black box appearing in other open windows during wallpaper update. They flash by, but essentially, the window border stays put, but inside the border a black box appears and disappears. Didn't happen with older drivers.

Would be interesting to know if this black box happens on non NVIDIA cards. ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#55 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:37:51 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#55 DisplayFusion Gotchya. I didn't think you were using the beta drivers, and was surprised when they were listed.

@Domo - yeah, saw that a few hours later - so new drivers for all my nVidia components - time to go installing.... ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#54 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:23:32 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#54 DisplayFusion
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Petrossa, perhaps you should stop using beta drivers and revert to the WHQL official drivers from nVidia:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_190.38_whql.html


:-) tnx John for the advice, but I actually changed drivers to the beta to see if the problem went away;

Downloading the 190.62 tnx Domosan for the heads up; ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#53 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:39:22 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#53 DisplayFusion Make that http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_190.62_whql.html.
New set of GPU drivers released today ;) ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#52 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:05:11 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#52 DisplayFusion Petrossa, perhaps you should stop using beta drivers and revert to the WHQL official drivers from nVidia:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_190.38_whql.html ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#51 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:26:29 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#51 DisplayFusion it just happens during a background wallpaper switch. Yes beta 12. But hey, if i'm the only one don't go chasing red herrings.

I can live with it so.....Just wait and see if anymore crop up. To me it's completed also, make us a nice wallpaper grouping box instead 8-) ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#50 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:11:50 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#50 DisplayFusion How did you cause this to occur? Did you have to minimize/restore many times? Are you using Beta 12? ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#49 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:12:38 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#49 DisplayFusion :-( So this is my setup:
windows 7600 OEM x64, NVIDIA Geforce 190.56 on a 250 GTS.
It's not Opera 10, because i reinstalled an old release version 9 and it does the same.

It's the first time though, before it was more frequent. ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#48 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:35:59 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#48 DisplayFusion
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FWIW: I am using the nVidia 190.38 drivers with my pair of GTX260s and they have just released new drivers for the Motherboards as well - 15.45 and 15.46 (depending upon upon whether you have nVidia based motherboards with on-board GPUs or not).

Also, My W7 RTM is a clean install as opposed to an upgrade - and even though you can edit a file and easily use the upgrade feature from the Beta / RC to final, I highly recommend that you clean install - playing around with apps and tweaks and whatnot will almost always leave remnants of themselves behind after uninstallation / removal, and especially when using beta and RC versions of the OS. In the long run, you'll be a lot happier with a new, fresh clean install of the OS and will have less issues down the road (well, to clarify, less issues b/c you'll have non that can be traced back to the upgrade).


I don't have an NVIDIA motherboard, waiting for new GPU drivers. And yes, I agree. I do a clean install about every 2 months, have done that for years now. I love starting fresh :) ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#47 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:19:18 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#47 DisplayFusion FWIW: I am using the nVidia 190.38 drivers with my pair of GTX260s and they have just released new drivers for the Motherboards as well - 15.45 and 15.46 (depending upon upon whether you have nVidia based motherboards with on-board GPUs or not).

Also, My W7 RTM is a clean install as opposed to an upgrade - and even though you can edit a file and easily use the upgrade feature from the Beta / RC to final, I highly recommend that you clean install - playing around with apps and tweaks and whatnot will almost always leave remnants of themselves behind after uninstallation / removal, and especially when using beta and RC versions of the OS. In the long run, you'll be a lot happier with a new, fresh clean install of the OS and will have less issues down the road (well, to clarify, less issues b/c you'll have non that can be traced back to the upgrade). ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#46 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:03:17 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#46 DisplayFusion
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I'm very interested to hear if the problem keeps happening after your fresh Win7 install. Can you follow-up once you're done?


Absolutely, will do. Hopefully NVIDIA will release a set of new drivers soon as well. ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#45 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:50:02 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#45 DisplayFusion I'm very interested to hear if the problem keeps happening after your fresh Win7 install. Can you follow-up once you're done? ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#44 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:05 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#44 DisplayFusion
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Congrats on the drivers license! I haven't been able to reproduce the black bars here either. :( I'm going to mark this topic as "complete", and hope that it's either a hardware or drivers problem. :-D Seriously though, it sounds like a problem with just MSN, in very a specific situation.

@Domokun: Do you have any other computers at your place that you can try to reproduce this problem on?


Thanks! And no, this is the only one. I'm going to do a fresh Windows 7 install tomorrow again, if it's still occurring then I'll just stick to 3.0.6 forever :( ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#43 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:20 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#43 DisplayFusion Congrats on the drivers license! I haven't been able to reproduce the black bars here either. :( I'm going to mark this topic as "complete", and hope that it's either a hardware or drivers problem. :-D Seriously though, it sounds like a problem with just MSN, in very a specific situation.

@Domokun: Do you have any other computers at your place that you can try to reproduce this problem on? ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#42 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:04:11 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#42 DisplayFusion Why is Windows Live Messenger so mean to me :(. On a brighter note: I GOT MY DRIVER'S LICENSE TODAY! WOOHOO :D ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#41 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:42:22 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#41 DisplayFusion we dutch are known to see things in a black light :-D

Jon, sofar no black boxes with beta 12........ ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#40 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:21:10 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#40 DisplayFusion
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confirmed, and i'll need some time to see if the blackbox is gone. I can't create it like Domosan. (who's dutch btw Jon that explains a lot :-D )


Wut? ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#39 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:57:05 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#39 DisplayFusion
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@Domokun: I'll post all the builds today. Thanks!

@petrossa: Just to confirm: you get black spots in your Opera windows?


confirmed, and i'll need some time to see if the blackbox is gone. I can't create it like Domosan. (who's dutch btw Jon that explains a lot :-D ) ]]> RE: MSN black window bug is back https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#38 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:23:20 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/msn-black-window-bug-is-back/?ID=02195ca0-79d8-4a0a-89f4-2bb315b72509#38 DisplayFusion Hmm, that's weird. Using beta 12 now and each time I minimize the chat window, the black bars get worse, so every time I minimize the chat window and I open it again there are more black bars. Also, I don't know if this helps but when I change my Windows 7 color scheme to Basic, the black bars look like this:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7407/basic.png
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