DisplayFusion RSS: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688 DisplayFusion RSS: MMC repaint problems Wed, 15 Apr 2026 08:26:08 GMT en hourly 1 https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688 RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#46 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:52:43 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#46 DisplayFusion @doubledoom: Interesting! I just tried it out and it indeed fixed the MMC repaint problems. DisplayFusion doesn't cause issues with MMC any more, but I had another program installed that ran Global Hooks and was messing up the MMC windows :)

Thanks for posting that! ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#45 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:39:16 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#45 DisplayFusion Microsoft have issued a hotfix for this problem.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2643882

It is indicated that it is for Streets & Trips but it works with any other program suffering the same issue or the repaint issue. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#44 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:40:02 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#44 DisplayFusion Some applications just don't behave well when hooked, regardless of what the hooks are doing. Using the Compatibility rules in DisplayFusion to disable the hooks will definitely fix it up if DisplayFusion is the only application hooking the affected application window, but if there are other programs hooking the affected application (like Ad Muncher, or other window management programs), you may still run into issues.

Just wanted to clarify the issue a bit :) ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#43 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:46:24 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#43 DisplayFusion
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I've been having this exact same issue for a long time now, but the funny thing is I had installed display fusion to try out, but didn't have the function I needed so I uninstalled it and have the same problem. So either this is a problem related multi monitor systems and windows 7 or the applications that help out like df or in my case probably the inefficient Matrox power desk. I'm going to go ahead and try DF again with suggested fixes.


Thomas, I trialled a few other MM applications and found all but one other had the same issue. However, as soon as it was identified and reported here, the compatibility mode option was quickly made available as a workaround.

I also use admuncher which suffers the same problem and once in the past another bit of unrelated software did but I cannot recall what that was. Nowadays, whenever I try new software, I see if the problem occurs as part of the trial process. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#42 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:28:32 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#42 DisplayFusion I've been having this exact same issue for a long time now, but the funny thing is I had installed display fusion to try out, but didn't have the function I needed so I uninstalled it and have the same problem. So either this is a problem related multi monitor systems and windows 7 or the applications that help out like df or in my case probably the inefficient Matrox power desk. I'm going to go ahead and try DF again with suggested fixes. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#41 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:31:36 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#41 DisplayFusion Sounds good, thanks Murray! ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#40 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:52:04 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#40 DisplayFusion Jon: Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. Unfortunately I've started to notice the problem in the Chrome browser as well, which we can't avoid patching to do what we need to do.

Extremely frustrating. Will keep investigating from here and will let you know if I find any silver bullets. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#39 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:10:25 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#39 DisplayFusion @Murray: Unfortunately our solution is to not load the hooks for the MMC process. This appears to be a Windows or driver-related issue that can't be worked around. Our hooks just ignore the MMC windows and we use other means to get the information we need. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#38 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:17:46 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#38 DisplayFusion
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Just a bit of feeback on my earlier comment about adobe acrobat. It needed to be added to the compatibility list to get it to work. It didn't get fixed in an update.


Ok good to know. Acrobat seems to be ok on my system, so for now it will just need to be manually added to the compatibility rules on any affected systems as it doesn't seem to be a consistent issue with all customers.

Thanks! ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#37 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:43:03 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#37 DisplayFusion Just a bit of feeback on my earlier comment about adobe acrobat. It needed to be added to the compatibility list to get it to work. It didn't get fixed in an update. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#36 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:38:57 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#36 DisplayFusion @Brian, unfortunately it's not possible to add an option like that at the moment, but if we can in the future, we definitely will.

@Murray, I will pass your info on to Jon as it will ultimately be up to him on whether we can share the information.

Thanks! ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#35 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:52:56 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#35 DisplayFusion Dear Keith,

We're currently trying to figure out the cause of this problem, as we're experiencing an identical conflict on some hardware with our product (Ad Muncher, www.admuncher.com). Could you possibly let me know the cause you found when investigating? It would save us going through the same headaches and I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#34 Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:23:34 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#34 DisplayFusion Any chance we could get a "don't repaint" option in compatibility options?

I'm running into the repaint issue with Lotus Notes as well.(actually, just domino administrator, but it's all controlled by notes2.exe) I really like display fusion's option to easily throw my application to the other window by middle clicking the title bar, but if I add a program to compatibility and choose "don't allow display fusion hooks", then obviously the middle click functionality disappears.

Thanks. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#33 Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:00:21 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#33 DisplayFusion Glad to hear it's fixed itself, perhaps one of the new Betas did help. :) Unfortunately the only real way to fix these issues is to add them to the Compatibility list. The issues don't affect everyone, so I can't add an all-encompassing exception, sorry. :) ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#32 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:11:04 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#32 DisplayFusion Its funny that you mentioned acrobat as I had the same problem with Acrobat Writer 10. However, its not in my compatibility list and its no longer suffering the problem. I put it down to one of the recent betas (i'm on beta 9 currently) ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#31 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:55:22 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#31 DisplayFusion Running into the same problem with..
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe

Adding it to compatibility fixed the issue.

Do you want to know about further programs we find that run into this issue, and should we be posting them in this thread? The new compatibility options do help a lot when running across this.

(windows 7 enterprise, x64)

Edited because I meant to mention - downloaded beta9 this morning, and was able to take the wow64/mmc.exe out of compatibility and it works great!
:) ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#30 Sun, 17 Jul 2011 05:02:59 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#30 DisplayFusion I'm glad to hear the new Compatibility options are working well for you, thanks for following-up. :) ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#29 Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:43:28 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#29 DisplayFusion I fixed msmoney by adding the following to compatbility and disabling "allow this application to load displayfusion hooks):

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Money 2005\MNYCoreFiles\msmoney.exe

Having the option to remove the loading displayfusion hooks makes things a lot easier as there are not many programs that suffer the problem. its just a pain when they do. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#28 Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:05:26 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#28 DisplayFusion Thanks for letting me know, I've fixed your issue for the upcoming Beta 9. :) ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#27 Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:40:05 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#27 DisplayFusion After I posted, I noticed there was a beta version available. (3.4.0 Beta 8 )
Reading the notes, I was excited to see they say one of the issues addressed is the MMC Repaint issue.

I downloaded the new version and..

it partially works.

MMC windows like services.msc and compmgmt.msc are indeed working properly.

However, my "Kaspersky Administration Kit", and "Group Policy Management" windows are still experiencing the problem.

One of the things in the later version of the beta I noticed you added was the ability to disable hooks for certain programs. I went into compatibility and added "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\mmc.exe" to the list (This is the version of MMC that is running those two windows for me) - Turned off "Allow this application to load displayfusion hooks" - and.. YAY.. they are working now.

So.. whatever you did to the regular mmc window for exclusions, I think you just need to add it to the one running from syswow64 as well.

:)

Thanks for the excellent program. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#26 Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:24:05 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#26 DisplayFusion I regret to report that I am experiencing the same repaint issues with my MMC windows.

Drove me nuts trying to locate the source of the issue, but if I close display fusion, the problem goes away immediately.

Using Windows 7 x64 (Enterprise), Service Pack 1
ATI Video Card (HD 5450)
Driver Version 8.850.0.0 (Catalyst 11.5 - also experienced with Catalyst 11.6, but I think it's the same driver version)

Temporary workaround is to either resize the 'left' panel, or turn on, then off the 'action pane', as this causes the mmc window to redraw itself properly.

Display Fusion Pro Version 3.3.1 ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#25 Mon, 04 Jul 2011 19:52:07 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#25 DisplayFusion Ok, thanks for the follow-up! I'll do some testing with these applications to see if there's anything we can do. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#24 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:20:38 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#24 DisplayFusion Whilst this issue is fixed with the Services window. It still occurs with Microsoft Money and Microsoft Autoroute and Nuance PDF Convertor (drag those windows bigger when DF is running and you get the same corruption that appeared with Services). Yet when DF is not running, there is no issue. ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#23 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:37:05 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#23 DisplayFusion Hehe, glad to hear it! ]]> RE: MMC repaint problems https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#22 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:27:09 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/mmc-repaint-problems/?ID=2108c7c9-e91e-410a-a30e-af7ff3401688#22 DisplayFusion :blank: I just love to conversate with one of my favorite developers team. :laugh: ]]>