DisplayFusion RSS: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b DisplayFusion RSS: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. Wed, 08 Apr 2026 12:18:33 GMT en hourly 1 https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#33 Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:06:21 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#33 DisplayFusion Just a quick update, the issue with dragging files between two transparent Explorer windows should now be fixed up in 4.2 Beta 3.

I still wasn't able to reproduce the issue with the iTunes Minimize rule not working on the first try, so unfortunately I don't think it's something we'll be able to fix up from our end.

As for the Torrents window in MAL Updater not obeying the Window Location rule, it's still on our list, but we haven't been able to fix it up yet.

Thanks!

Edit: It actually looks like we won't be able to fix up the Torrents window in MAL Updater, we've tried a few things to make it work, and it's just not accepting it. Sorry! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#32 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:15:17 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#32 DisplayFusion @Bruce: Thank you for the info, but unfortunately, if the application is hard-coded to open on a specific monitor, DisplayFusion won't be able to move it :( ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#31 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:49:27 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#31 DisplayFusion Keith,

Add Spyder2express.exe V2.3.6 Monitor Color Calibration to the list that does not honor Window Location. This program is not an installed application. It always wants to run on a specific monitor of its choosing. Unless you have a license serial number, it will not be possible to test where the display ends up.

FYI, Spyder2express V2.3.6 is a 64 bit version of Spyder2 that is specific to building a Color LUT for 1 monitor (Spyder Pro has multiple monitor support but think $$). It places the adjustment screen on the monitor designated in the BIOS for the BIOS screen. By changing the BIOS or re-cabling, it is possible to build unique CLUT's (via renaming) and then have either Windows Color management or Spyder Profile Chooser load the correct CLUT into the video cards. DisplayFusion Window Location would make this a simpler action. The Monitor CLUT re-calibration is not a frequent routine so the inconvenience is not that great. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#30 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:25:46 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#30 DisplayFusion Add Photoshop 6 to the list. Any idea's?? ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#29 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 20:01:03 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#29 DisplayFusion Just a quick update, the shutdown menu bug should be fixed up in DisplayFusion 4.1. Haven't had a chance to look at the iTunes Minimize issue yet.

Thanks! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#28 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:23:57 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#28 DisplayFusion Ok, that's strange! I'll retest the iTunes Minimize rule again when I get a chance.

Thanks for letting us know about that Window Location bug with the shutdown menu as well. We'll have that all fixed up for the next version :) ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#27 Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:16:59 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#27 DisplayFusion I waited until everything seems to be in idle, and it still doesn't minimize on the first start-up of iTunes.

Also, I'm writing to mention a new problem with Window Location with the latest beta version (v4.1.0 Beta 14). When I open up the window panel from the taskbar (the one with the search bar, recently opened programs, the Shut down button, etc.) and click the arrow next to the Shut down button to pull up the additional pop-up menu with Log off, restart, etc., that pop-up menu (or other pop-up menus like the one for Administrative Tools) gets affected by the Windows Location rule set to affect Explorer.exe.
For my case, I have it set so that explorer navigation windows open on my secondary screen and turn slightly transparent. With that rule, the latest beta now does that to the aforementioned pop-up menu, so it moves to my other screen and turns slightly transparent, as well. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#26 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:48:55 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#26 DisplayFusion They're all the same hooks actually. Can you try a couple of tests with iTunes to see if it minimizes as per the Window Location rule?
  • Try launching it after a fresh boot, while the system is still busy (but after DisplayFusion has started)
  • Try launching it after a fresh boot, but after all the programs have started up and the system seems to be idle
]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#25 Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:26:08 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#25 DisplayFusion So I restarted my computer a few hours ago, and just now started up iTunes for the first time since then, and it minimizes correctly, so it's probably what you said earlier about the hooks (unless it's the new beta that fixed it, since it's also my first time starting the computer since the latest beta version or two). If it is what you said, then I'm not sure how long it takes to load the necessary hooks, as I haven't tested it on a bunch of different intervals. It certainly takes longer than the hooks that makes windows transparent, as I've previously mentioned in my last post. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#24 Thu, 31 May 2012 19:52:01 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#24 DisplayFusion Yeah, I'm not sure what would be different between our systems regarding the iTunes issue. It seems to work perfectly for me every time, so I'm not sure what else we can have you check at the moment :(

As for the Windows Explorer thing, I had forgotten that it was ok in 3.4. I've added that to our notes, and hopefully we'll be able to get it fixed up properly. I'll be sure to keep you posted! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#23 Thu, 31 May 2012 01:52:37 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#23 DisplayFusion
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For iTunes, even on the first launch after rebooting the computer, it still minimizes for me. How quickly do you open iTunes after the computer boots up? It's possible that even though DisplayFusion has started, the hooks haven't had a chance to load yet, which would make the Window Location rules fail until they do get loaded.
I've waited at least a few minutes after DisplayFusion has loaded, and even checked if other Window Location settings work (such as explorer.exe going transparent) before opening iTunes, and it still doesn't minimize the first time. The first time after logging off and on again doesn't have this problem, though. I wonder why it's not working for me but is for you. I don't have iTunes on the main monitor, if that means anything.

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Regarding the Windows Explorer issue, I was finally able to reproduce this. I'm not sure if there's anything we can do about it, but we'll certainly look into it. Applying transparency to all explorer.exe windows is a bit tricky, because there are a lot of different types of windows that run under that process, and some of them may not behave well with transparency settings (for example, the little preview that shows while dragging:)).
This was totally fine before I started having this problem around the time that Window Location got a code overhaul. Perhaps that since the coding is much more complex now, it is now making things transparent that the old code didn't, which allows for problems in addition places. I'm pretty sure this problem (which was a blinking problem, then) was somehow temporarily fixed in Beta 12 or 13 of 4.0.0 but came back in Beta 15 (as a white-box problem, instead). ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#22 Thu, 31 May 2012 01:12:41 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#22 DisplayFusion Sorry for the delayed response on this. I've finally had a chance to test out the issues you're still having.

For iTunes, even on the first launch after rebooting the computer, it still minimizes for me. How quickly do you open iTunes after the computer boots up? It's possible that even though DisplayFusion has started, the hooks haven't had a chance to load yet, which would make the Window Location rules fail until they do get loaded.

Regarding the Windows Explorer issue, I was finally able to reproduce this. I'm not sure if there's anything we can do about it, but we'll certainly look into it. Applying transparency to all explorer.exe windows is a bit tricky, because there are a lot of different types of windows that run under that process, and some of them may not behave well with transparency settings (for example, the little preview that shows while dragging:)).

As for MAL Updater, I was able to enable the Torrents plugin and can confirm that it doesn't get set as transparent by the Window Location rule, so we'll have a look into that again as well.

Thanks! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#21 Thu, 24 May 2012 20:13:45 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#21 DisplayFusion Ok, thanks for the feedback! I'll test out that scenario and see what I can find out. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#20 Tue, 22 May 2012 05:13:07 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#20 DisplayFusion So I've noticed that the minimizing problem still hasn't been fixed 100%. The very first time I start up iTunes after booting up the computer, it does not minimize. But, after that, if I close iTunes then re-open iTunes, then it will minimize. It's just the very first time that I open it after logging in that it doesn't work.
I have yet to test it for the first occurrence when I simply log off then log on again. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#19 Tue, 01 May 2012 01:51:47 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#19 DisplayFusion Ok, thanks! Beta 17 is now available and should finally have the iTunes Minimize bug fixed up. As for the other two issues, we'll need to keep working on them. I'll keep you posted!

Thanks! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#18 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:30:55 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#18 DisplayFusion For MAL Updater, I'm having the issue where the main window sometimes doesn't become transparent, as well. As for what the 2nd window I'm talking about looks like, take a took at the first attackment. This opens at launch for me; it might not open by default when one first gets the program, though.

As for the windows explorer issue, the second attachment is what it looks like when I try to drag anything (files or folders) to and/or from the explorer window. As long as the mouse cursor is still dragging the item and is currently over the Windows Explorer window, the box is visible; as soon as the cursor hovers somewhere else, the box disappears, but reappears again if the cursor is moved back over it. For about the first 1/4 to 1/2 of a second, you can still see the item that you're dragging following the mouse, but then the icon gets replaced by the box as seen in the attachment.
[I'm not sure if the following information is helpful at all, but I'll include it, anyway: This box is always the same size when dragging from from within the Windows Explorer. When dragging image files from an internet explorer window to Windows Explorer, the box is the size of the image as it's currently displayed (excluding tiny images, in which case the box is has a minimum size that's bigger than it).]
Also, my video card's driver is up-to-date. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#17 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:56:39 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#17 DisplayFusion My bad! Looks like I didn't test it close enough.

iTunes seems to Minimize if it wasn't last closed in the same spot. For example, if the rule is set up to move iTunes to Monitor 2 and Minimize, it works as long as the last screen I closed it on is not Monitor 2. If I close it on Monitor 2, then open it again, the minimize doesn't work. We'll have to keep working on this one.

As for MAL Updater, which secondary window isn't becoming transparent? I've tested the Now Playing window, and it's kind of weird. It will go transparent every other time I open it. However, I re-tested 3.4, and it seems to do the same thing.

Regarding the Windows Explorer issue, I can't seem to reproduce it. I've tried making two Windows Explorer windows transparent, and then dragging files between them and all seems to be ok. Have you tried updating your video card drivers at all?

Thanks! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#16 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:57:54 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#16 DisplayFusion For some reason, iTunes still doesn't minimize, and the secondary window on MAL Updater doesn't become transparent (the main window does, though). Also, Beta 15 made dragging files in the window explorer windows (with transparency via Window Location turned on for them) glitchy again. I think it was Beta 12 or 13 that had this problem completely fixed, and Beta 14 didn't have problems for me regarding this, as well (although I didn't restart my computer after installing Beta 14 before updating to 15, if that does anything). With Beta 15, it's glitchy, again, but in slightly different way than before. Before, the dragged icon would blink rapidly, but now, when I drag stuff, the icon completely disappears, and a wide white box appears until I let go of the mouse button. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#15 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:14:07 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#15 DisplayFusion Just wanted to post a quick update, the MAL Updater and iTunes issues should be all fixed up in DisplayFusion 4.0 Beta 15. Could you give it a try when you have a chance?

Thanks! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#14 Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:39:31 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#14 DisplayFusion Unfortunately it's not possible to include the old code, as other parts of DisplayFusion use some of those functions as well. However, we are still planning to fix up the issues you're running into, hopefully for 3.5. If you've noticed any other issues, please let me know and I'll add them to the list.

Thanks! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#13 Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:18:31 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#13 DisplayFusion
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As for Window's explorer windows, the icons still blink when dragged, but nowhere near as rapidly as before, and it also no longer interferes with moving files.
Actually, now that I've had more time with it, it still does interfere with moving/dragging files, I've noticed; it just does it much less often, due to the it not flashing as rapidly.

This is probably asking for too much, but is it possible to have a feature in a later build where one can use the old code for Window Location prior to 3.4.1? Ever since the major change of the code for Window Location, not only has there been a lot of issues, but even some of the minor "improvements" turned out to be more problematic than helpful. But that might be just me.
All the other new features in the beta are great though, so I still want to use the up-to-date version for those features. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#12 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:36:34 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#12 DisplayFusion Ok, thanks! It looks like MAL Updater has it's own settings for transparency, so that may be interfering with DisplayFusion, but we'll check it out and see what we can do. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#11 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:48:02 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#11 DisplayFusion None of the windows turn transparent. ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#10 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:58:49 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#10 DisplayFusion Glad to hear IrfanView is working! Thought we had iTunes Minimize working as well but I just re-tested it and it's still broken for me too. We'll have another look at it.

As for MAL Updater, is it the main window that doesn't become transparent? Or child windows?

Thanks! ]]> RE: 3.4.1 Window Location no longer functions on a bunch of programs. https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#9 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:13:04 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/341-window-location-no-longer-functions-on-a-bunch-of-programs/?ID=83d6d887-ec0a-4c66-9df2-483ab010a99b#9 DisplayFusion So IrfanView slideshows are, once again, fully functional with Window Location (as far as I can tell) with this update.
MAL Updater windows still don't become transparent, and iTunes still doesn't minimize, though.
As for Window's explorer windows, the icons still blink when dragged, but nowhere near as rapidly as before, and it also no longer interferes with moving files. ]]>