DisplayFusion RSS: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d DisplayFusion RSS: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) Sun, 19 Apr 2026 12:06:06 GMT en hourly 1 https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/RSS/?TopicID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#38 Thu, 21 May 2009 13:12:48 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#38 DisplayFusion When I render the buttons I use the "SystemDefault" setting for text anti-aliasing. I will experiment with different settings to see if any of them look "better" (subjective, and monitor dependent). I'll let you know what I find out. :) ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#37 Thu, 21 May 2009 04:48:37 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#37 DisplayFusion It looks like the Windows built-in taskbar always renders using "standard" antialiasing, even if ClearType is turned on.

Antialiasing is a complete mess in Windows these days. There used to be three settings: none (jagged), standard (full-pixel), and ClearType (subpixel). Now there's just the ClearType tuner, which only offers two options: none and ClearType. Except that some UI elements are hard-coded to use standard (?!).

Ideally, DisplayFusion will use ClearType if it's turned on. If there's no way to do that, then it would be acceptable to do whatever the Windows 7 taskbar does, even if it's wrong. Of course, testing would be a pain -- ClearType settings don't take effect consistently throughout the whole system without a reboot. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#36 Wed, 20 May 2009 21:30:14 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#36 DisplayFusion Hmmm interesting, we may be onto something here, taoyue pointed out my cleartype is OFF, when in fact it is ON. I checked to make sure since I always turn it on. I then tried turning cleartype off by clicking the checkbox. The chunky font problem on the DF Taskbar goes away immediately and with no artifacts showing at all in any text. See the two attached screenshots.

regards,
~jim ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#35 Wed, 20 May 2009 19:48:00 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#35 DisplayFusion Re: funny font rendering. It gets even funkier. The taskbar sometimes renders as a mix. Sometimes, individual words in a program title will render incorrectly, and the rest will render correctly. I've marked this out in the attachment.

Note: (1) Monitors are in portrait mode (2) ClearType is on. However, jshope seems to be having this problem even with ClearType turned off off. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#34 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:46:53 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#34 DisplayFusion @rpsgc: I'm glad to hear that it isn't DisplayFusion's fault, but sad to hear there's nothing that can be done about it. :( As for the flashing windows, the May 17th beta had support for them, but doesn't appear to work correctly. :) I am working on fixing this for the next beta. :) ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#33 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:22:44 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#33 DisplayFusion
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Do all the MSN windows open minimized when DisplayFusion is running, or just the windows that open on the DisplayFusion taskbar's window? Does this problem go away when DisplayFusion is closed? What version of Windows and MSN Messenger are you using?


Nevermind... I tested it exhaustively including in a VM and I can only conclude that it has nothing to do with DF but a much rather moronic decision by WLM's programmers. All conversation windows start minimized, no matter what.

Of course, that only affects me because tasks in DF's taskbar don't flash. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#32 Wed, 20 May 2009 13:45:29 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#32 DisplayFusion @John: Thanks!

@rpsgc: Do all the MSN windows open minimized when DisplayFusion is running, or just the windows that open on the DisplayFusion taskbar's window? Does this problem go away when DisplayFusion is closed? What version of Windows and MSN Messenger are you using? ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#31 Wed, 20 May 2009 09:25:17 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#31 DisplayFusion BTW, any luck with this issue? (it still happens in the beta)
http://www.binaryfortress.com/Forum/index.php?topic=864.0

Thanks. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#30 Wed, 20 May 2009 06:00:02 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#30 DisplayFusion Reply - I think he used this piece of software: http://www.bome.com/Restorator/

He says it is better than ResHack.... ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#29 Tue, 19 May 2009 22:32:48 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#29 DisplayFusion TBH: I am betting they used a simple icon extractor program, but I can ask good ole grimmy and see if he'll let us in on his lil' secret....

I know that I have extracted several myself for use elsewhere, and I used the http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3011-libraries-icons-change.html tutorial, specifically step 6, to make reference to the actual icons in one particular DLL set of icons, but I am guessing that it is pretty much the same thing.

I'll ask him in a few minutes. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#28 Tue, 19 May 2009 20:10:52 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#28 DisplayFusion That's fantastic John, thanks. Any idea how they did that? I've been looking for a way to extract the resources, but so far I've been re-creating them by hand. They aren't pixel perfect, but they work as good place holders for the beta. :) Thanks! ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#27 Tue, 19 May 2009 20:00:23 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#27 DisplayFusion Also, not sure if this helps, but back in the seven forums thread, another user posted some extracted icons from the taskbar - just in case it helps....

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/6087-ultramon-replacement-8.html#post100886 ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#26 Tue, 19 May 2009 18:28:40 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#26 DisplayFusion Jon,

I did some playing around last night, and if I change that transparency to another value, just before the task bar reloads all the fonts on the DF Taskbar icons on my machine look identical to jshope's screen capture- but that lasts between 500 ms to 2000 ms (max) every time I tried it, and *usually* lasts right at 500 ms (I only noticed it lasting over a second once, hence the 2000 ms reference, but that could easily have been my system in the middle of a CPU intensive process that I did not know about). ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#25 Tue, 19 May 2009 15:58:46 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#25 DisplayFusion I confirm; the taskbar on 2nd monitor doesn't "flash" the task when you get a window that is flashing itself. For now I can just keep ones I need to be flashy on the primary monitor.

There are other "7" effects that don't work, of course, the green 0-100% fill-bar... ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#24 Tue, 19 May 2009 13:29:24 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#24 DisplayFusion Hi Jon,

Nothing was changed fonts and color wise. the font is at the Window 7 standard of 100%. I was running 3.0.4 right before the upgrade and the fonts were ok. I'm going to poke around and see if anything looks amiss.

Regards,
~jim ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#23 Tue, 19 May 2009 13:15:55 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#23 DisplayFusion @beakersoft: I'll take a look at this problem before I release the next beta.

@John: I was aware of the project, but it doesn't cover any of the things that I need to use. :( ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#22 Tue, 19 May 2009 12:59:23 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#22 DisplayFusion Installed the new beta yesterday, i have come across the attached error twice today, while just working normally. It seems to disable the multimon taskbar. If you ok the error and then go to the app you can just turn it back on again.

I'm on XPsp2, running 3 monitors

Cheers
Luke ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#21 Tue, 19 May 2009 05:57:00 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#21 DisplayFusion Same thing here Jon, although mine are not nearly as bad.....

Also, Jon, were you aware of this?

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/developers/archive/2009/05/18/windows-7-managed-code-apis.aspx ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#20 Tue, 19 May 2009 03:46:17 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#20 DisplayFusion @jshope: Wow, you're right... that looks terrible. Have you changed any interface settings (fonts, colours... etc)? I'll take a look and see if I can reproduce this issue. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#19 Tue, 19 May 2009 01:49:21 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#19 DisplayFusion Hi everyone, I'm happy to be a BETA monkey! I downloaded the latest BETA at the top of this thread, and installed by shutting down DF and copying all files to the DF folder in "Program Files (x86)" Everything started right backup no problem. I did notice right away that the DF Taskbar fonts seem funky-chunky, see the attached screenshot. Thanks for the 3.0.5 work, John, its looking and acting fantastic so far.

~jim ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#18 Mon, 18 May 2009 21:46:10 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#18 DisplayFusion
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Just a quick question; how should I be running betas?

I have the latest stable version installed using the installer. I downloaded the zip, extracted it, closed the stable version and ran the beta version straight from the folder. Is this the correct way to to it or should I be overwriting the files in program files?

Thanks,

Jason

The betas are very stable, so you can shut DF down and copy the zip file contents right to your install directory. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#17 Mon, 18 May 2009 20:56:24 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#17 DisplayFusion
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Strange... I've testing in XP, Vista and Win7. What applications have you noticed the issue with?


For now I can only speak for Windows Live Messenger. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#16 Mon, 18 May 2009 20:51:16 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#16 DisplayFusion Just a quick question; how should I be running betas?

I have the latest stable version installed using the installer. I downloaded the zip, extracted it, closed the stable version and ran the beta version straight from the folder. Is this the correct way to to it or should I be overwriting the files in program files?

Thanks,

Jason ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#15 Mon, 18 May 2009 20:49:06 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#15 DisplayFusion I have not noticed the flash either. I am using Win7 x64 Build 7100. I use Live Messenger all day long. I have also noticed that I am not getting it with Outlook 2007. ]]> RE: DisplayFusion 3.0.5 Beta (May 17, 2009) https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#14 Mon, 18 May 2009 20:46:54 GMT Binary Fortress Software https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/displayfusion-305-beta-may-17-2009/?ID=850b988a-db9f-4653-bb67-9ff6faa2e74d#14 DisplayFusion Strange... I've testing in XP, Vista and Win7. What applications have you noticed the issue with? ]]>