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Jcee
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Have you guys concidered including something similar to Desktop coral http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/desktopcoral/
in your program. aimed at reducing bezel distortion? If you adjust the size/position of your monitor (most monitors have this setting), you can make the desktop size match the size of your screen including your bezel (ofcourse that part will be 'cut off')

Then you throw those coral boundaries in the cut off parts, and Viola, maximized apps maximize properly, and you can drag apps across to other screens without any visual distortion. The only problems are the start menu, and fullscreen programs tend to ignore this program...
(if using classic shell, the start button issue can be fixed by modifying a skin/button to have a blank space on the left side so it remains on screen)

Attached shows you what it looks like when i create a screenshot, and below it is how i physically see it on my screen.
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Jun 17, 2013  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I had never heard of DesktopCoral before, but it sounds pretty neat! I'll add this to our feature request list, and we'll post an update if we're able to implement it in a future version.

Thanks!
Jun 19, 2013  • #2
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Jcee
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Yea mostly its used with rainmeter, gadgets, and an older program called samorize (all which display gadgets on the desktop), and thus coral was developed as a way to reserve that screen space so you could see that stuff even with stuff maximized. Never really designed for the purpose im using it for :P. And i suspect that trying to get full screen apps to behave may be the hardest part.

i know AMDs Catalyst Control Center, can scale the monitor to correct for underscan and overscan, but they might be relying on their hardware to do so.. (so i dont know if it can be re-produced, or with an ability to adjust width, height, and the 4 directional offsets like on a TV) If it is possible that would fix the fullscreen issue however (by reverting back when a fullscreen app is detected or on hotkey)

Also a friend was wondering about identifying specific monitors, so they can add per-monitor settings to their program (got any articles/info i could pass along? since your program seems to do this fine :P)
Jun 20, 2013  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah ok, yeah, we wouldn't be able to adjust the actual overscan/underscan or image size on the monitor, as that's a hardware thing. The best we might be able to do is to add the same functionality as DesktopCoral. You're workaround is definitely creative though!

Regarding the monitor IDs, Windows 7 doesn't provide a way to programatically get the monitor ID numbers that match what's shown in the Windows Screen Resolution settings, but I'll see if we can provide some more details on how we got it to work.
Jun 21, 2013  • #4
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
There is no easy way to read the monitor ID's, Windows doesn't provide any API for that. :( We use a bunch of different properties to make an educated guess, and most of the time it's correct. Sorry I can't be of more help, but unfortunately there's no easy road here.
Jun 21, 2013  • #5
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Jcee
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windows 7 doesnt, but any chance windows 8 does? it does seem to have more multi monitor functionality so maybe :P, although im sure he would want atleast windows 7 support to include such a feature :P

Im curious how much time it would take to 'port' snippets of your code into his program to mirror your functionality (assuming you were open to such a thing) to make monitor identification work (i've not actually mentioned contacting you about it yet, and thats one of the reasons im being so vague) All i can say is the program does not directly compete with you, and would likely enhance the experience of users using both softwares
Jun 22, 2013  • #6
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
As far as I know Windows 8 doesn't have any new monitor configuration APIs, and I haven't seen anything new that would be helpful with the monitor ID's. We're constantly tweaking our monitor ID "guessing" code, so it's not really something I'd like to share, sorry.
Jul 3, 2013  • #7
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Jcee
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thats ok, thanks for the response :P
Jul 4, 2013  • #8
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Just wanted to post a quick update to let you know that you should be able to do this now in 7.0 and up, using the new "Splits and Padding" button in the Monitor Configuration window :)

Thanks!
Jan 5, 2015  • #9
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