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Robert62723
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Downloaded latest beta for Windows 11, but it doesn't allow access to settings by right-clicking in the taskbar, and no icon appears in the taskbar except for the DF application itself (but clicking or right-clicking on it does nothing). Task manager shows that DF is running along with the DF host service.

Is there a new command sequence or hotkey combo that is used to bring up the settings?
Feb 3, 2024 (modified Feb 3, 2024)  • #1
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Robert62723
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I finally got settings to appear after reinstalling a couple of times. But it looks like Taskbar behavior is still incorrect, when the option to show all taskbars on all windows is chosen. All windows show up only on the primary monitor, only relevant windows on the other monitors.
Feb 4, 2024  • #2
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info? Here are the steps:

  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached
Feb 5, 2024  • #3
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Robert62723
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Here is the attached file - all taskbars should be on all displays, but only on main window, only relevant windows on other displays
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [52,663 bytes]
Feb 5, 2024  • #4
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StanF
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Having related issues. Taskbar works after starting windows, but after a time stops working altogether. Right click on taskbar doesn't work.
Right click on app icon does nothing
Click on start button does nothing.
Right click on start button does nothing
Basically the DF taskbar does not work except to display icons.
Windows taskbar seems to work ok.

I was able reset all taskbars to get it to work for awhile.

I have installed DF 11 Beta 1 for now.
Feb 5, 2024  • #5
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Robert62723 Thanks for sending that over. The troubleshooting info shows you have the taskbar mode set to "All taskbars show all windows". It sounds like you want that set to "Window taskbar shows all windows, DisplayFusion shows relevant windows"?

@StanF We are aware of a similar issue on our latest beta and we have it on our list to look into.

Thanks!
Feb 6, 2024  • #6
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Robert62723
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Thanks for your reply, but I think you have my statement reversed. I am TRYING to get DF to have ALL taskbars show ALL windows. But what it actually DOES is set ONLY the main display to show all windows, and other displays only show relevant windows. I can get the Windows Taskbar settings menu to do this, but not DF, when offered the choice of whether to keep Windows taskbar settings or DF's taskbar settings.
Feb 6, 2024  • #7
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah gotcha, could you send me over a debug log as well? Here are the steps:

  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Reproduce the issue and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log
Feb 6, 2024  • #8
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Robert62723
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I tried to send you the debug log but today ran into the following problems:
1. I couldn't launch DF. Task Manager shows it running, and the service and hooks processes are running, but I can't get a menu to show the settings. Same after I killed those processes and attempted to relaunch, and same after rebooting. Don't know what has changed.
2. My screen background (wallpaper) has turned black instead of my selected image. When I reset it, it changes for an instant, but then goes to black again.
Feb 7, 2024  • #9
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Both of those issues are likely related to the same issue @StanF mentioned. We'll let you know once we get that fixed up.

Thanks!
Feb 7, 2024  • #10
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StanF
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This issue also shows up in beta 1. Seems to work for "awhile" after starting the computer, then stops. Can't relate it to any particular activity that I'm doing.

Restarting DF seems to alleviate the problem, at least for awhile.
Feb 11, 2024  • #11
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've released a new beta that should fix this up, you can grab it here: https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/. Please let me know if you run into any issues after updating.
Mar 20, 2024  • #12
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StanF
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Owen,

I installed Beta 3 and the same problem with the taskbar exists. As far as I can tell no change with the latest Beta release. I will go back to the last stable release.
Mar 23, 2024  • #13
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We have some more changes coming in our next beta, we'll let you know once it's released to test out.

Thanks!
Mar 25, 2024  • #14
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Globe Spy
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V11 is a mess.
Sorry, but it's in many ways a lot of steps backwards.
I've always had the problem where changing from my single monitor desktop profile to my 3 monitor triples setup can never seem to 'remember' that the center monitor should be primary. This still happens. I have to wait until all the monitor back and forth, before pressing the profile hotkey combination a second time for the center monitor to be default.
Since V11, I have to do this now on my single desktop monitor profile because DF has decided that it wants to leave one of the triple monitors active!

I've tried deleting the profiles and creating new ones, but EXACTLY the same things happen.

Additionally, there's a LOT more back and forth switching of monitors when changing profiles, like a LOT MORE before it finally settles down, albeit still not doing what it's told when switching between either profile.
Is all of this really necessary? There are several free programs available (which you know of) that simply switch the profiles without all this constant monitor switching back and forth that really just screams "I have no idea what I'm doing and will just keep swithching monitors until something works!"

I don't have a particularly unusual setup:
Desktop monitor is an LG C2 120Hz panel running on HDMI 2.1, directly connected to the GPU
Triples are all DP 1.4, all connected directly to the GPU

System:
AMD 5800X3D
Nvidia RTX 4090
Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master
Multple M.2 NVME
Windows 11 latest build, everything up to date.

PS - I would be happy to send logs, but I have sent them multiple times over the years and none of the issues were ever resolved, and now this new V11 creates new problems!
Mar 25, 2024  • #15
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me over a debug log from beta 3? Here are the steps:

  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Reproduce the issue and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log
Mar 26, 2024  • #16
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Globe Spy
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Quote:
Could you send me over a debug log from beta 3? Here are the steps:

  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Reproduce the issue and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log


I'm not sure you were referring to my post made yesterday (still telling me it's being moderated), but assuming you were, here is the attached log you requested.
Start at around 10:47am to see the 'fun' begin as I press the hotkey to move from my single desktop monitor to my triples setup. After around 3-4 minutes it finally finished it's 'thing', turning the single desktop monitor on and then off again around 3 times.
I had to complete this debacle by pressing the hotkey one more time as DF refuses to put my center monitor in the triples array in the center. This is an old problem that was never solved in previous versions of DF. Sad to see it continues.

Then going back from the triples to the center monitor took about the same time for DF to complete whatever it is doing, but continued to leave one of the triple monitors on with desktop background image displayed.
At the end of the log you will likely see I had to manually disable that monitor, despite these both being newly created profiles, setup in Windows display management before saving in DF.

It should NOT take around 6-7 minutes to perform this simple task of going from one profile to another and back again, and require manual intervention to complete what should be automated and the entire reason for paying to purhase this program.
Log attached as requested.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [246,441 bytes]
Mar 26, 2024  • #17
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Are those triple monitors the exact same monitor models, or are they different?
Mar 27, 2024  • #18
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StanF
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The monitors are all different. The "system" monitor is an hp1905, second is an hpu28 and the last is lg tv 4k.
Mar 27, 2024  • #19
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StanF
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I believe the issue occurred around 9:15 AM PDT Mar 27, 2024. I can't say exactly when since it depends on when I need the DF taskbar. The windows taskbar appears to be ok.

I installed Beta 3 around 8:30 AM. Will now go back to the latest stable version
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [78,260 bytes]
Mar 27, 2024  • #20
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Globe Spy
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Quote:
Are those triple monitors the exact same monitor models, or are they different?


If that question was for me, the triple monoitors are exactly the same:
Gigabyte Aorus FI32Q

The single desktop monitor is an LG C2 (HDMI 2.1)
Mar 29, 2024  • #21
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@GlobeSpy Okay interesting, we have some changes coming for our next beta that might help here. We'll let you know once it's released to test out

@StanF We have some more changes in our next beta as well

Thanks!
Apr 1, 2024  • #22
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've released a new beta that might fix this up, please let me know if you run into any issues after updating. You can grab it here: https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!
Apr 24, 2024  • #23
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Globe Spy
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Quote:
We've released a new beta that might fix this up, please let me know if you run into any issues after updating. You can grab it here: https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!


This latest beta 4 has gone from bad to worse. My triples profile is completely broken, goes back and forth between triple and main desktop monitor infintely (I force closed DF after 15 minuts of it trying to load the profile).
Also does not recognize left or right monitors in the triples array, only have an image on the center monitor.
Suggestions? Really confounded by what could possibly be so difficult to get the basics to work in what's the premium app for multiple displays?
May 1, 2024  • #24
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Globe Spy
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Quote:
We've released a new beta that might fix this up, please let me know if you run into any issues after updating. You can grab it here: https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!


Update on my previous post.
Seems like beta 4 messed up my saved profiles, so I went through the process again.
Good news is that the old issue of having to apply the 'triple monitor' profile twice to have the center monitor actually be the center monitor has been resolved.
However, it can't seem to keep the desktop monitor off without applying the profile twice.
The same thing happens when going from the triples profile to the desktop single monitor profile - DF leaves the center triples monitor on unless I apply the profile a second time.
I've tried applying and saving the profile when the monitors are following the profile correctly, but nothing changes and I have to still apply the profile twice to have things work as they should.
This is a minor annoyance, but something that I can live with until you guys figure this issue out like you seem to have done with ensuring the center monitor is correct on the triple monitor profile.
Also, the profiles are applied MUCH faster than in Beta 3, so good jon on that improvement!
Almost there guys!
May 1, 2024  • #25
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me an updated log from beta 4?
May 2, 2024  • #26
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Robert62723
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I've tried the latest beta and the issue with DisplayFusion taskbars not enabling "show all apps on all taskbars" still not working - it only shows the relevant items on every monitor except the main one.
May 2, 2024  • #27
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Are you able to send me a debug log now from beta 4?
May 3, 2024  • #28
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Globe Spy
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Could you send me an updated log from beta 4?


Attached - Going from single desktop profile (LGC2-Desktop-2024) to triples profile (Aorus-Triples-2024) was initiated via hotkey at 12:27, spending the next 2.5 minutes flipping back and forth between single desktop monitor and triples, the single desktop monitor going in and out of standby 3 times before eventually remaining off and the triples finally in place.
Good news that the single desktop monitor actually stayed off (I created and saved new profiles), so I didn't have to press the hotkey once more.

The proces of switching back to the single desktop monitor began around 12:30 with some back and forth before finalizing, but with the center triples monitor remaining on until the single desktop profile was applied a second time and the center triples monitor remained off. This is a muchfaster process than enbaling the triples profile.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [198,196 bytes]
May 3, 2024  • #29
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StanF
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Beta 4 seems to work ok for me, except it silently aborts periodically. Attached is a log file. If it shows the problem it should be near the end of the file
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [84,291 bytes]
May 6, 2024  • #30
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StanF
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Owen, Happened again. Main activity was watching a video with MS Media Player.

If i shows in the log file, it happened within the last 45 minutes or so while I was watching the video.

I will move back to the last stable version.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [82,955 bytes]
May 6, 2024  • #31
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Globe Spy
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@Owen Muhlethaler - any feedback on the logs you requested that I sent?
Any ideas on anything I can do to resolve the issues, or are they things that I cannot do anything about other than wait for a new release?
May 10, 2024  • #32
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@StanF Is DisplayFusion exiting entirely, or just the taskbars are closing? If you head to C:\Users\(YourUser)\AppData\Local\CrashDumps, is there anything listed for DisplayFusion?

@GlobeSpy We'll have to make some more changes, we'll let you know when we have a new version to test out.

Thanks!
May 14, 2024  • #33
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StanF
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Owen,

I believe display fusion was exiting. Not only was the taskbars disappearing but the cursor movement between monitors was not working properly.

I did not check task manager to see if any df processes were still running.

I started df manually to get it to work again.

Stan
May 15, 2024  • #34
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StanF
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Owen,

I did not see any dumps for df.

Stan
May 15, 2024  • #35
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Globe Spy
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Quote:
@StanF Is DisplayFusion exiting entirely, or just the taskbars are closing? If you head to C:\Users\(YourUser)\AppData\Local\CrashDumps, is there anything listed for DisplayFusion?

@GlobeSpy We'll have to make some more changes, we'll let you know when we have a new version to test out.

Thanks!


Thank you!! Hoping you have identified what the issue is that's causing so much 'back and forth' before eventually settling on the triples profile when switching between Single HDMI 2.1 Desktop monitor and the 3 identical DP 1.4 triple monitor array.
Is it because the desktop monitor is HDMI 2.1 and the Triples are DP 1.4? Or is it something else? Just curious how these things work, even if it's only in laymans terms.
May 15, 2024  • #36
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@StanF What about here? C:\Users\(YourUser)\AppData\Local\Binary Fortress Software\DisplayFusion\CrashDumps

@GlobeSpy It's related to those 3 monitors being the exact same model. We were able to reproduce something similar here and we have it fixed up for our next beta, so we'll see if it fixes up your's as well
May 17, 2024  • #37
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StanF
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Owen,

That's the location I checked and no dumps related to df.

Stan
May 17, 2024  • #38
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Globe Spy
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@StanF What about here? C:\Users\(YourUser)\AppData\Local\Binary Fortress Software\DisplayFusion\CrashDumps

@GlobeSpy It's related to those 3 monitors being the exact same model. We were able to reproduce something similar here and we have it fixed up for our next beta, so we'll see if it fixes up your's as well


Looking forward to it, appreciate the reply.
May 17, 2024  • #39
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've released a new beta with some more changes here, please let me know if you run into any issues after updating.

Thanks!
22 days ago  • #40
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Quote:
We've released a new beta with some more changes here, please let me know if you run into any issues after updating.

Thanks!


Hello!
Thanks for the follow up.
I updated to the latest beta 5.
Moving to my triples setup is still a drawn-out back and forth experience that takes way too long.
It opens up the triples (identical Aorus FI32Q monitors) profile quite quickly, but then spends time turning my desktop monitor (LG C2 42") on and off again in this strange dance between just staying on the triples and turning the desktop monitor off, and then deciding to turn the desktop monitor back on again.
It's not really much better than it used to be.
When switching back to the desktop monitor, it still has the same problem turning off the center monitor in my triples array until I press the 'Desktop' profile hotkey a second time - but going back to the desktop is definitely faster than going to the triples, but no faster than it was before.

Perhaps this is as good as it gets with your software?
Log attached
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [168,398 bytes]
17 days ago  • #41
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hmmmm okay, we'll open this back up to have another look at.

Thanks!
15 days ago  • #42
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