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sfwrtr
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Jon,

I think I've asked this before and it probably got lost in the noise. If you've answered and I've missed it, sorry.

I use a tablet PC. Usually it is normal orientation, but sometimes it rotated. I would like to have wallpaper assigned per orientation. If that were only portrait and landscape, I would be satisfied though the tablet can be 0, 90, 180, and 270 degrees.

As for my external monitors, I have two. They are different brands. One is fixed in portrait mode, another can be either landscape or portrait.

So here's the full request. I would like DF to identify specific monitors. I'd like to assign specific wallpapers for specific orientations (even if only landscape/portrait) for specific monitors. If you could add the ability to designate by position (that is relative to the main, like above, below, right, left) that could be useful and possible substitute for monitor ID specific wallpapers.

Can you ID monitors?
Can you tell the orientation?
Can you tell monitor position? (One of my monitors is always above the tablet. The other is always either right or left.)

I'm interested in what you think about this as a future enhancement. Originally, I Googled up DF for multimonitor wallpaper support but paid for pro when the drag between monitors and hotkey support became stable. I think if this extra orientation support were available, I might have gone pro earlier.
Jul 28, 2009  • #1
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
You're submitting all kinds of brain teasers this afternoon. :) This problem is particularly tricky for a number of reasons. Monitors don't necessarily have a unique ID, the position can easily change and the orientation shouldn't matter. Here is the solution I am proposing. I can add a setting called "Only use images that exactly match the monitor's dimensions". If you enable this setting, DisplayFusion will only every use 1600x1200 images when your monitor is in 1600x1200 mode (landscape) and will only use 1200x1600 images when the monitor is in vertical (portait) mode. This way you don't have to maintain separate image lists for each orientation. However, if there is an image that is 1200x1599 it won't be used... so what do you think?

Is the setting name worded ok? Please suggest an alternative wording if it doesn't describe what it does.
Jul 28, 2009  • #2
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sfwrtr
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I'm thinking about this and I will reply later. No hurry, right? This is something that I would walk into a coworker's office and hash out, but that's not possible here... :wink:
Jul 29, 2009  • #3
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
After some more though, I would extend the wording to say "Only use images that exactly match the monitor's dimensions or aspect ratio". This means that if your monitor is set to 1600x1200, either one of these images would be valid:

1600x1200
800x600

The first matches the resolution, the second image has the same aspect ratio, so no cropping or scaling would be required and it would be a "clean" fit. :)
Jul 29, 2009  • #4
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sfwrtr
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Having studied the Desktop Wallpaper interface, I think I understand your response to my proposal. You have global settings for all images for a specific monitor (1, 2, etc.), not for specific images.

First, how about changing aspect ratio / resolution to "match image orientation to monitor orientation." Choose an image based on whether the x-axis is greater than the y-axis. Square images are always acceptable.

This implies, however, a change to the Image Mode. When this option is on, "Use 1 Image" becomes "Use 1 portrait image and 1 landscape image."

Looking at what I requested, it can be broken into two enhancements. The above was one, below is my thoughts on other part...

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Monitors don't necessarily have a unique ID

I was hopeful...

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The position can easily change and the orientation shouldn't matter.

This statement is true and false. The position can easily change, however most people never (or very rarely) move them around. I know people with home machines and many of our machines at work have dual monitors. Position rarely changes. However, if you have a laptop or a tablet, you are bound to plug it into two or more monitors (home, work, Mom's house, etc.) In my case, I have monitors in two different rooms of the house, and one at work. The one on my home desk is to the left. The one above the treadmill is above, and the one at work is to the left.

I know that the system provides you with position and dimensions, and tells you if it is monitor 1, 2, 3, etc. What do you think about taking the 1, 2, 3, etc and assigning it (optionally, of course), to a right, left, top, bottom, and main profile? That way if I plug into my treadmill monitor, I get the sports image and if I plug into work, I get the company logo, etc...

While auto-detection is (and would be) very cool, and it could work in many cases as outline above, another thought is to provide an option where the user tells DF that they have changed from one configuration to another. For example, when I plug in my table to any of these monitors, I have to click a tray icon for a menu and select a monitor scheme. That combined with "Match image orientation" would certainly satisfy me. In that case, you would simply have complete separate wallpaper data from each named scheme and you can switch via hot key, titlebar button, or tray icon menu.

Any of this sound interesting or doable to you?
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Jul 30, 2009  • #5
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After some more thought, I would extend the wording to say "Only use images that exactly match the monitor's dimensions or aspect ratio". This means that if your monitor is set to 1600x1200, either one of these images would be valid:

1600x1200
800x600

The first matches the resolution, the second image has the same aspect ratio, so no cropping or scaling would be required and it would be a "clean" fit. :)


Jon, this idea would make my wallpapering life SO MUCH easier! I really like the aspect ratio idea!
Aug 9, 2009  • #6
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
This information is in regards to an older beta version, so I'm locking/archiving this topic. If you experience this issue again with a newer version please re-post and we'll sort it out. Thanks! :)
Dec 17, 2009  • #7
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