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Screen Sharing Options with Split Screens?

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PeteHalsted
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Perhaps I am missing something, but I haven't found much information via google yet. I am using a 43 inch 4K TV as my monitor and using Display Fusion to split it into "4 monitors". I occasionally need to demonstrate something to a client on my machine. We have a screen connect license, and also use Teamviewer and even Skype depending on customer comfort level to share my screen with them.

The issue is all of these options are not aware of the Split Screens and present my entire desktop with all 4 virtual monitors on it.

What solutions are others using in this situation?

Solutions I know about but are not satisfactory:

1. Configure my monitor as a single monitor when presenting. I often need to have control software, etc. running on other monitors that I can control while present the front end to clients on one monitor, so switching to single monitor mode is not a viable option, not to mention my arm would get tired moving the mouse around on a 43 inch monitor running in 1920x1080 mode!!!

2. Share application instead of window. The application we demonstrate spawn windows in a way that makes them seem like different applications and are therefor not seen by viewers if I try to share application. We sometimes also need to switch between 2 or 3 applications while demonstrating which is very cumbersome to have to keep stopping and restarting sharing and choosing a different application.

3. So far the only option I have found (but haven't tested yet) that might work is ScreenLeap, which says it has an option to "share a rectangle" so I might be able to set it to the dimensions of one of my split monitors. But I was really hoping to figure out a way to do this with Screen Connect since we already have a license for it.
Aug 10, 2017  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Unfortunately the Monitor Splitting doesn't work in a way that other applications would see the splits as individual monitors :(

In the future we plan to add the ability to mirror a selected part of the screen to a new window, which you could then share out with ScreenConnect, but I'm not sure when that will be implemented.

I love ScreenConnect, too bad it doesn't have a way to share only part of the screen. I can't think of a way to do what you're looking for with ScreenConnect, sorry!

One other thought, not sure if you use VMware or Hyper-V to run virtual machines on your computer, but if you do, you could run your demonstrations from within a virtual machine that's set to 1920x1080.
Aug 14, 2017  • #2
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PeteHalsted
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Thanks for the Reply Keith. If I understand you correctly your solution would basically be an application that is viewing a portion of my screen, and then I could share that "application" with screen connect, which would be a perfect solution for me! Definitely put me on the list as someone interested in testing that solution when you are ready.

VM's won't work for me as there is to many things that I need from my primary system for remote sessions.
Aug 14, 2017  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
You're correct :)

We'll definitely let you know if/when that's available to try out.

Thanks!
Aug 17, 2017  • #4
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Mircea
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Your solution to this problem is an ugly compromise. You need to implement a Windows driver for a virtual display, which would be seen by Windows as a physical display. This way you will support any application, like Skype, not just ScreenConnect.

I was really close to buying DisplayFusion until I hit this thread. And I'm glad I did, otherwise I would have thrown the money out the window. All my clients are using Skype and they certainly won't change that just for me.

My fix right now is having a small secondary display for Skype sharing, but I would gladly pay some serious bucks for screen split sharing with Skype.

Think about it, maybe give it some research time.
Mar 1, 2018  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for the feedback, I will add that to our list.
Mar 5, 2018  • #6
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chamm
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This is the only feature that I think is "missing." I still like the product, and it still does everything else that I need it to do, but people hate it when I share my (massive) screen with them. They can't see what I'm doing.

Hopefully this makes it in some time soon. Keep up the good work!
Mar 20, 2018  • #7
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for the kind words! I've added your vote as well.
Mar 21, 2018  • #8
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BPA Dynamics, Inc.402729
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I would like to make the same request. I am a Skype for Business and Microsoft Teams user as well. I do have a virtual machine that I remote into to solve this problem but it's a bit much for sure.

Thanks,
Bryan
Jun 15, 2018  • #9
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JakeLD
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Same here, 200 users affected by this limitation on a daily basis. Please consider this new feature as a high priority.

Thanks,
Jonathan
Jun 18, 2018 (modified Jun 18, 2018)  • #10
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Christian_Bailey
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I need this too - for the OP's need of screensharing via Zoom. For which your suggested work-around feature would certainly be helpful.

And also to "maximize" video playing in a browser without filling the entire monitor. Which would require a lower-level integration.
Jun 20, 2018  • #11
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jj0329
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More power to the developer as this is a tough implementation to do.

I hope they can split the ultrawide monitors just like the 2 physical monitors.
still working on a split screen type or going back to 1920x1080 on ultrawide monitor for screenshare via skype, just waiting for the function for future updates.

Hoping for the release of this functionality for future updates. :)
thanks displayfusion
Jul 30, 2018  • #12
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Jeremy Valente
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Agree with all above. Use Skype daily, and a way to screen share just one of my virtual displays without having to pick the "Share a window" option would be most helpful.
Oct 2, 2018  • #13
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Jeremy Salden
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Please make this a priority!
Nov 14, 2018  • #14
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Conspander
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Yes, please update us on the status of this. This is probably going to be a deal breaker for me. I love my ultra-wide but this is a must have function for me.
Thanks!
18 days ago  • #15
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
DisplayFusion can't trick the system and other apps into thinking there are actually multiple physical monitors with the splits. Unfortunately this isn't going to be possible, the sharing apps themselves need to allow you to select an arbitrary part of the screen to share, or share the application window instead of the full screen.

Sorry for the bad news :(
18 days ago  • #16
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PeteHalsted
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Thanks for the reply Keith,

I am not suggestion Display fusion trick the remote apps, into working as it we have true multiple monitors. I am suggestion that a unbelievable helpful feature would for Display Fusion to have screen sharing built in, you are already grabbing and manipulating the screen. I know its a big ask, but based on the comments on this thread I believe you can see there is a lot of interest in that.

Barring that, perhaps partnering with one of the exiting screen sharing software vendors, and working together so the two could work together and accomplish it, would be a good alternative and perhaps open up a new stream of potential customers for both parties.

Just asking someone to run it up the management flag pole and see if we can get any interest from BF in either solution.
17 days ago  • #17
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Jeremy Valente
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So, in my case, I fight with the same issues with Skype. Skype does have the option of sharing just an application window, but the problem with that is that every time I need to show some different data, I have to stop sharing, and share the new windows (example, stop sharing Excel, start sharing PowerPoint). This process would be much simpler if I could just "share" one of the virtual monitors. I do this multiple times a day, and often have to switch apps. and this makes presentations very clunky as it is. I love the product, and this is really the only shortcoming that affects me on a daily basis.

I ask because of this statement, is it specific to that application?

"In the future we plan to add the ability to mirror a selected part of the screen to a new window, which you could then share out with ScreenConnect, but I'm not sure when that will be implemented."
17 days ago (modified 17 days ago)  • #18
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PeteHalsted
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Very similar to my issue, except the application that I am sharing spawns some processes as separate applications so it really makes it impossible to share an application and I need to be able to share a "virtual monitor"
17 days ago  • #19
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah yep, for you scenarios being able to mirror part of the screen to a separate window that you could then share with Skype or whatever would probably work. Unfortunately I don't have an ETA on that functionality but I will see what I can do to get it bumped up the list.
16 days ago  • #20
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Jeremy Valente
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Ah yep, for you scenarios being able to mirror part of the screen to a separate window that you could then share with Skype or whatever would probably work. Unfortunately I don't have an ETA on that functionality but I will see what I can do to get it bumped up the list.


Awesome, this will be HUGE for me (and I assume others as well)!!!
16 days ago  • #21
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Mircea
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Ah yep, for you scenarios being able to mirror part of the screen to a separate window that you could then share with Skype or whatever would probably work. Unfortunately I don't have an ETA on that functionality but I will see what I can do to get it bumped up the list.


Skype only allows to share a monitor, not a window. Having a window mirroring a part of the screen is useless for Skype users. Such a solution will leave out BY DESIGN a huge user base.
16 days ago (modified 16 days ago)  • #22
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Christian_Bailey
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Mircea, I think the proposed solution would work for all Skype users because you can tell Skype to share that virtual monitor which is really just a portion of your real monitor.
16 days ago  • #23
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Jeremy Valente
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Ah yep, for you scenarios being able to mirror part of the screen to a separate window that you could then share with Skype or whatever would probably work. Unfortunately I don't have an ETA on that functionality but I will see what I can do to get it bumped up the list.


Skype only allows to share a monitor, not a window. Having a window mirroring a part of the screen is useless for Skype users. Such a solution will leave out BY DESIGN a huge user base.


Perhaps on the personal version, but on the business version, you can share an active window, or a "desktop" the problem with share a desktop as it stand right now is it shares the entire PHYSICAL desktop as opposed to the virtual one, so in my case, a remote user sees a display of 4080 x 768, not very useful.
16 days ago  • #24
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
If the sharing app only supports sharing a monitor, that's not something we can do anything about, it's not possible for us to make the sharing app see the splits as different monitors.
16 days ago  • #25
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Mircea
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If the sharing app only supports sharing a monitor, that's not something we can do anything about, it's not possible for us to make the sharing app see the splits as different monitors.


Did you investigate the virtual display driver suggestion?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that someone will come up with a solid solution for this at some point in the near future. At that moment you will have lost an enormous potential user base and the market advantage you hold right now. Think about that before labeling this as not possible. Over and out.
16 days ago  • #26
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Just wanted to post a follow-up to let everyone know that in 9.4 Beta 5, there's a new "Mirror Selected Area" that will allow you to select an arbitrary portion of the screen.

Hope that helps some of you!
6 days ago  • #27
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Michał45840
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Fantastic, I'll give it a go, by the way, I posted this in my other thread as well, but it belongs here thematically - it's another way to have a go at the 4K big monitor + screensharing topic.

In terms of mirroring windows, would there be an option to mirror every new window I activate the option for, to the same DF window, rather than opening a new DF window each time for each new window I choose to share?

This would have much use in terms of circumventing the 4K big screen sharing trouble, because with Skype for business, you can select to share an application - you would then choose - once - the DF mirrored app, and as per need, toggle other windows you want to share to be mirrored in that same DF app, without having to bring up Skype sharing options and selecting new window again.

If the DF window could be made borderless, and inside there were would be the window frame of the mirrored application/window, it would be all the better.

Still, the region option in beta could do just the trick!
5 days ago (modified 5 days ago)  • #28
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Michał45840
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Ok, the functionality in Beta5/6 works, just 2 remarks:

1) there is quite a bit of lag on the mirrored window - region is 1920x1080 - the mouse cursor is updated every other second or so, while there is no lag in the region itself or elsewhere - can this be tweaked or is this limitation to stay? It would limit it's usability for screensharing. (4th gen i7, 8gb ram, win10 64bit)

2) just a personal preference, would be nice if it was possible in the future, via an advanced option or so, to make the mirrored window borderless, so as not to necessarily announce to one and all I am using a 3rd party app :-)
4 days ago  • #29
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I'll put your second suggestion on our list and check in with the devs about the polling speed question
2 days ago  • #30
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Jeremy Valente
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Ok, the functionality in Beta5/6 works, just 2 remarks:

1) there is quite a bit of lag on the mirrored window - region is 1920x1080 - the mouse cursor is updated every other second or so, while there is no lag in the region itself or elsewhere - can this be tweaked or is this limitation to stay? It would limit it's usability for screensharing. (4th gen i7, 8gb ram, win10 64bit)

2) just a personal preference, would be nice if it was possible in the future, via an advanced option or so, to make the mirrored window borderless, so as not to necessarily announce to one and all I am using a 3rd party app :-)


Not sure if it's your memory, but I have zero lag. I'm running 32GB, and noticed you're only running 8. Guessing some of the mirroring options are running in memory, so that might be your issue. Running that much screen on 8 GB might be limiting you a bit.
2 days ago  • #31
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Michał45840
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I gave it a go, I used a tiny window about 50 pixel accross, and there is still the same lag, or a.k.a. the polling speed thing.
Memory and CPU not overburdened any more with that size region & window than with 1920x1080 ones (cpu 70% free, memory 33% free).

Please note: I find the displayfusion operation extremely quick on that laptop overall, with 2 x 4K monitors connected split into about 8 HD screens, I use the hotkey bound to mouse3 button "move to current monitor and maximize" with zero lag.
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