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Taskbar doesn't load on First Monitor

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Chris Rotter
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There is a problem, when the Vivaldi Browser is in full screen (F11) the taskbar does not load on the first monitor of a dual monitor setup ?
Jul 17, 2019  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you try enabling the "Allow taskbar reloading while full screen" option on the DisplayFusion Settings > Taskbar tab?
Jul 17, 2019  • #2
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Could you try enabling the "Allow taskbar reloading while full screen" option on the DisplayFusion Settings > Taskbar tab?


I always had that option enabled, the problem still persists.
Jul 24, 2019  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info when Vivaldi is full screen and the taskbar is missing? Here are the steps:

  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached
Jul 24, 2019  • #4
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I've attached the debugging and logging information.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [138,819 bytes]
Jul 25, 2019  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! So is it the Windows taskbar on the left monitor that's not showing when Vivaldi is full screen?
Jul 25, 2019  • #6
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Thanks! So is it the Windows taskbar on the left monitor that's not showing when Vivaldi is full screen?


Yes.
Jul 25, 2019  • #7
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, strange! When I test here, it seems to work. Here are the steps I used:
  • Configured my monitors to be the same layout as yours.
  • Enabled auto-hide on the Windows taskbar (left monitor).
  • Put Vivaldi in full screen on the right monitor.
  • Moused over the bottom of the left monitor. The taskbar appears.

Did I miss any steps there?
Jul 25, 2019  • #8
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The first monitor is not setup on the left, my setup is the other way around. The first monitor is to the right, the second monitor is were what you would assume is to the left. That is how display fusion shows the identification of the monitors, the monitor on the left is monitor #2, the monitor on the right is monitor #1.
Jul 26, 2019  • #9
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Right, but the troubleshooting info is showing that the Windows taskbar is on the left monitor. When you right-click on it, do you get the DisplayFusion menu or the Windows menu?
Jul 26, 2019  • #10
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Right, but the troubleshooting info is showing that the Windows taskbar is on the left monitor. When you right-click on it, do you get the DisplayFusion menu or the Windows menu?


On the left monitor, I get the Windows menu.
Jul 26, 2019  • #11
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Ok, and it's that taskbar that's not coming out of auto-hide when Vivaldi is full screen, correct? If you exit DisplayFusion and then run Vivaldi full screen, does it make any difference?
Jul 29, 2019  • #12
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Ok, and it's that taskbar that's not coming out of auto-hide when Vivaldi is full screen, correct? If you exit DisplayFusion and then run Vivaldi full screen, does it make any difference?


It's the right monitor, the left monitor gets the Windows Menu; the right monitor loads Display Fusion; and it is the right monitor which is the issue as it doesn't load the taskbar when vivaldi is in full screen.
Jul 30, 2019  • #13
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Ah ok, thanks! I got mixed up with what you meant by the "first" monitor. Sorry about that! Could you send me a backup of your settings? (Settings > Options > Export)
Jul 30, 2019  • #14
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The settings file is attached.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusion Backup (2019-07-30 @ 17-02, 9.5.0.0, CHRISTOHER-PC).reg [273,322 bytes]
Jul 30, 2019  • #15
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Thanks! If you click on something on the left monitor, then hover the mouse over the bottom of the right monitor, does the taskbar then show up?
Jul 31, 2019  • #16
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Thanks! If you click on something on the left monitor, then hover the mouse over the bottom of the right monitor, does the taskbar then show up?


Yes, it does show; when and only when I click on the left monitor first, then when I hover over the right monitor when vivaldi is in full screen the taskbar displays.

Is this a bug ?
Jul 31, 2019  • #17
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It's not actually. When there's a full screen application, DF puts the taskbar behind it, and it can only be accessed if the full screen application doesn't have focus.

You might be able to work around it by enabling the "Ignore Full Screen" option in the Settings > Advanced Settings window though.
Jul 31, 2019  • #18
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It's not actually. When there's a full screen application, DF puts the taskbar behind it, and it can only be accessed if the full screen application doesn't have focus.

You might be able to work around it by enabling the "Ignore Full Screen" option in the Settings > Advanced Settings window though.


There was an option for this. Thank you for the help.
Jul 31, 2019  • #19
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No worries, glad to hear that helped!
Aug 1, 2019  • #20
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Although a new problem has arose, the start menu now only loads on the left monitor rather then the right ?
Aug 2, 2019  • #21
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Strange, no issues here when I test the Start menu with that advanced setting enabled and Vivaldi full screen.

Does it make any difference if you click the button or use the Windows key on the keyboard?
Aug 2, 2019  • #22
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Strange, no issues here when I test the Start menu with that advanced setting enabled and Vivaldi full screen.

Does it make any difference if you click the button or use the Windows key on the keyboard?


The windows key will load the start menu for the right monitor as I want; but using the mouse doesn't, it triggers the start menu for the left monitor.

Is it possible to tell when attempting to minimize a window regardless whether the left or right screen, if it's minimizing though Display Fusion or regular Windows ?

I'm having an issue with one program when minimizing, rather then minimizing the window to the task bar; it minimizes the window to a small square in the top left hand corner of the screen.
Aug 3, 2019  • #23
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If Vivaldi isn't full screen, does the Start menu left-click work correctly?

Application minimizing should always be handled by Windows. DisplayFusion doesn't intercept minimize messages at all.
Aug 7, 2019  • #24
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If Vivaldi isn't full screen, does the Start menu left-click work correctly?


It works, once I click on the right monitor then click on the start menu; or if I hit the Windows button on the keyboard; although it's very flacky, I have to fight with it somewhat before it works on the second monitor.
Aug 8, 2019  • #25
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Ok, could you try this test build and let me know if it makes any difference?

https://www.binaryfortress.com/Files/DisplayFusion/DisplayFusionSetup-9.6-Beta1.exe
Aug 8, 2019  • #26
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Ok, could you try this test build and let me know if it makes any difference?

https://www.binaryfortress.com/Files/DisplayFusion/DisplayFusionSetup-9.6-Beta1.exe


It made no difference the response time for the start menu on the right is extremely slow and or does not respond; it still is a fight.

No matter how many times I click on the right screen to initiate the right screen, whether pressing the windows key or clicking the start menu on the right screen it doesn't initiate.
Aug 9, 2019  • #27
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After doing more testing, it's almost as if you have to do it a dozen times for it to begin working as it should. Therefore, I'm going to mark this as resolved.

Thank you for the help.
Aug 14, 2019 (modified Aug 14, 2019)  • #28
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Strange! Do you have to do that just once at startup, or every time you need to use the Start menu?
Aug 15, 2019  • #29
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Strange! Do you have to do that just once at startup, or every time you need to use the Start menu?


Everytime I use the Start Menu.

It is a real fight when trying to get the right screen to load up the start menu, hitting the windows key numerous times; sometimes, works.

Other times I have to click on the second monitor numerous time if I want to try to load the start menu with a mouse, but that too, only sometimes works.
Most of the time, the first monitor start menu loads, rather then the second monitor start menu when I want the second monitor start menu to load.
Aug 20, 2019  • #30
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And that's only when Vivaldi is full screen, or always?
Aug 21, 2019  • #31
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Also, is your Start menu full screen?
Aug 21, 2019  • #32
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And that's only when Vivaldi is full screen, or always?

Always.
Aug 21, 2019  • #33
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Also, is your Start menu full screen?

What do you mean ?
Aug 21, 2019  • #34
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When you click the Start button, does it take up the whole screen when it opens, or is it just a regular sized menu?
Aug 21, 2019  • #35
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When you click the Start button, does it take up the whole screen when it opens, or is it just a regular sized menu?


Regular sized menu.
Aug 21, 2019  • #36
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
One thing I just noticed is that your DisplayFusion isn't running elevated. Could you try exiting DisplayFusion and running it as Administrator and see if that makes any difference?
Aug 22, 2019  • #37
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One thing I just noticed is that your DisplayFusion isn't running elevated. Could you try exiting DisplayFusion and running it as Administrator and see if that makes any difference?


When starting display fusion as an administrator the responsiveness of the start menu whether by the Windows key or with a mouse is siggnificantly faster; therefore, there is an issue when Display Fusion is started as a standard user.
Sep 6, 2019  • #38
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Ok, thanks for confirming! The issue there is that when it's run as administrator, we can do some extra stuff to make it faster and more reliable.

When it's run as a normal user, we have to fall back to a slower polling method :(

I'll put it on our list to see if we can improve it, but if you can run as administrator for now, that would be the best workaround.
Sep 6, 2019  • #39
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Ok, thanks for confirming! The issue there is that when it's run as administrator, we can do some extra stuff to make it faster and more reliable.

When it's run as a normal user, we have to fall back to a slower polling method :(

I'll put it on our list to see if we can improve it, but if you can run as administrator for now, that would be the best workaround.


Thanks, hopefully it will get improved.
Sep 7, 2019  • #40
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