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Can window position include back/front information?

Frank99's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Window position save/restore seems to include x/y position and height/width, but not front/back "layer" information. I want an easy way to save and restore my windows on the fly, including bringing the same windows to the front again. Basically, I'm working on three types of documents, and if I need to go to a different application temporarily, I want a way to save my current window positions, do what I need to do with other applications, and then get back to where I was automatically with a keystroke.

I don't think Window profiles are the right solution for me since the windows aren't always the same document/file, and aren't always the same application. Is there any way to do this with DF?
Dec 2, 2018  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We may be able to store the z-order actually. I've added this to our feature request list, and if we're able to implement it in a future version, we'll definitely let you know.

Regarding the issue of different files being open, you can still use Window Position Profiles. You can edit the entries in the Profile and just remove the file name, that way that entry will apply to all windows that match the window text without the file name (e.g. all windows that match the text "Microsoft Word."

Hope that helps!
Dec 4, 2018  • #2
Frank99's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
That is helpful, but unfortunately my use case requires 2 Acrobat windows at once. Can that work with profiles? If so, what if there are more Acrobat windows open also?
Dec 5, 2018  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It would only work if they were always the same files open in the Acrobat windows. If it's not the same file, there's no way for DisplayFusion to identify the window. i.e. an entry in the Window Position Profile can either apply to all Acrobat windows, or one Acrobat window with a specific file open.
Dec 5, 2018  • #4
Frank99's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
OK, if that's the case, then *please* mark adding z-info to the request list! I'm sure people will find many uses for being able to record/set that information.
Dec 8, 2018  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Yep! I've already added that to our feature request list

Dec 10, 2018  • #6
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Hi, I have a suggestion for the OP regarding this problem:

"That is helpful, but unfortunately my use case requires 2 Acrobat windows at once. Can that work with profiles? If so, what if there are more Acrobat windows open also?"

Hi Frank! I think you should be able to work around this pretty easily. Just create a copy of the Acrobat executable, with a different name. When you run it, the new name is what Windows will know it by. Then use the original exe for one file, and the copy for the other. Configure accordingly in DisplayFusion, and you're all set! I tested this with FireFox, and it worked like a charm! See attached. I hope it works for you too!

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Jan 28, 2020  • #7
Frank99's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@JanxSpirit, thanks for the idea, but that won't work for me unfortunately. I often have 5 to 10 PDF files open at once, and I have Acrobat set so that each document is opened in a new instance. What I really want to do is be able to take a "snapshot" of the current window positions, bring other windows to the front to do some stuff, and then use one key to quickly return to the previous window arrangement. If I had to minimize windows to access shortcuts on the desktop to open differently-named .exe files, that would already take longer than alt-tabbing through my window stack. I'm trying to REALLY optimize/minimize the time spend on window management. But I appreciate the suggestion and testing!

Developers, has there been any further consideration of this feature?
Feb 5, 2020  • #8
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Frank99: No news to offer on this yet, sorry!
Feb 5, 2020  • #9
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I would *love* window position profiles to store z order as well. This is especially useful for the longstanding displayport bug in windows.

Jun 9, 2020  • #10
Will Christensen31266
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Any word on the Z index? When my windows come in they're covered by my browser tab. I want them to be brought to the front.
Sep 1, 2020  • #11
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Any word on the Z index? When my windows come in they're covered by my browser tab. I want them to be brought to the front.

Not that I've heard, but I don't work for DisplayFusion so idk if it's something they're working on. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this feature, and instead I'd try to find a work-around myself. Did you try adding your browser to your Window Position Profile? Maybe if you make that first, the other apps will be loaded on top of it? You might have to get more creative than that, e.g. add your browser as the first entry, set to minimize, then your other apps, and then the browser again, set to maximize or restore. I haven't tried that and have no idea if it will work, or if it even processes the entries in the order they're listed. Which gives me another idea.. have one profile that lays out your browser where you want it, then a second that does the rest of the apps. Shortcuts on both. Trigger the browser profile, then the second profile. If that works, you could probably create a macro that would trigger both via a single shortcut. Again, haven't messed with any of that myself, so idk for sure. I'm just skilled in making things do what I want.
Sep 1, 2020  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It's still open on our list! I can't offer an ETA on it yet though, sorry.
Sep 2, 2020  • #13
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I too am having problems with window position profiles. For some apps, simply moving the windows causes a change in the z-index. Windows that opened on top somehow get moved behind other windows. Having that in the window position profile would be really nice. But I would settle for some kind of script/function that does the same. I'm sure I can figure out how to make such a function with the BFS methods, but I don't understand how to execute a function when window position profile changes. If I could bind the function to a specific profile that would be nice.

As it is, I make window position profiles for specific apps rather than for the whole desktop. So a given profile will only relate to one binary or group of binaries. I only use these because some of my apps don't remember window positions. So I use a different hotkey for each app that basically fills the void of the app failing to remember its window positions naturally. If those hotkeys could also simultaneously run a function that sets the z-index of the relevant windows, that would solve my problem too.

Jul 29, 2021  • #14
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Hey! Wondering if this is still on the list or maybe I just don't know where the feature is if it has been added. I currently cascade position Signal, Google Voice, and Facebook Messenger applications so that I can see the left of each window where I can tell if there are any new conversations.. it would be so great if the hotkey to position the windows would also cascade them in the order so I can see the left sides of each window.

7 days ago  • #15
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It's still open on our list but no ETA on when we will implement it.

6 days ago  • #16
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