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Forresto
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First, thanks for your efforts, I see some very useful functions in your software even if you cannot help me with this.

I have an ASUS 28" 4k monitor and 5 other other monitors that max at 1920x1080. So far I have been unable to get the main monitor to display at any resolution between 3840x2160 and 1920x1080. The resolutions are listed but when I switch to them the monitor just displays a smaller window (eg, it will show a centered 2880x1620 chunk of a 4k resolution screen).

I realize this has nothing to do with your software, the AMD driver suite (running two R9 290x cards) will not let me change the scaling options on the 4k monitor. So something is probably limited at a driver level.

Anyway, it is not very useful to run a 28" monitor at 4k resolutions using windows 7 default text and icon sizes. It's just too small. If you change the default icon/text size using windows, it uses the same defaults for all displays, so increasing them makes them ridiculously large on other displays.

Does this software allow you to change the default icon and font size on a per monitor basis? I couldn't find anything, but this would be very useful if remotely possible.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Nov 18, 2014  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I wish we could implement a feature like that, but as far as we know, there's no way to do this :(

I use a 3 monitor setup here as well, with one of them being a 4K, so I feel your pain. I ended up just using DisplayFusion to split it into 4 quadrants, and then I place 4 different Chrome windows in each section, and use the Chrome zoom to make the pages readable.

Sorry I don't have better news for you!
Nov 19, 2014  • #2
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Kilroy0097
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Excellent product. I used the free version for a long time before the sale came along on Steam and I picked up the Pro. In the past when I had a normal PC workstation and two monitors the product was flawless because the resolution matched the monitors I used. However now that I have a laptop with a docking station that has a very high resolution, there are some issues. I am now experiencing the same issues as the OP with my setup and was wondering if a fix was being planned for the future.

I tried the latest install of DF Pro on Steam and then changed to DF Pro on Steam 7.2 (Beta 7) to see if the beta tweaked the things I was concerned with.

My conf. is three displays through a Dell multi-monitor docking station with my M3800 laptop.
Resolution Laptop = 3840 x 2160
Res. Monitor 1= 1920 x 1080
Res. Monitor 2= 1920 x 1200

Things like the TitleBar buttons and the Taskbar icons are ridiculously huge. They are not scaling down at all with the lower resolutions.

Thank you for your time.
May 30, 2015  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me a screenshot of the buttons when they're too big?

Thanks!
Jun 2, 2015  • #4
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Kilroy0097
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Screenshot of all 3 monitors on imgur because it's larger than 10MB. Link: http://i.imgur.com/OX3RhpM.jpg

As you can see the resolution step down is plain to see. Unfortunately I do not have monitors that can support a higher resolution.

In order from Left to Right.
Resolution Laptop = 3840 x 2160
Res. Monitor 1= 1920 x 1080
Res. Monitor 2= 1920 x 1200

On the second monitor you can see the two examples show. First notice the Start8 window that comes up when clicking on the Start button. It's expanded and large. Second on top of the browser window behind it you will see the "Send App to Next Monitor" icon which is much bigger and off set from the browser buttons. A similar behavior happens on the third monitor as well.

For reference, this is the docking station I am using. - Dell Docking Station USB3.0 Ultra HD 4k (Model D3100)
Latest Driver: DisplayLink Display Adapter (436E) - Ver: 7.7.57957.0 Date: 09/26/2014

I have a sneaky feeling it may be the docking station or a setting within Windows 8.1. Just in case I am going to poke around and see if I can magically fix this thing from my end. *crosses fingers*
Jun 4, 2015  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! If you open up the Windows Screen Resolution settings, click "Make text and other items larger or smaller," then set the slider all the way to Smallest, does that fix it up? You'll need to log out and back in again for the changes to take effect.
Jun 4, 2015  • #6
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Kilroy0097
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Screenshot across three monitors: http://i.imgur.com/iHSUIgW.jpg

Here is what I had to do in order to make all three monitors scale correctly. First I had to change the resolution on the laptop that has the Ultra 4k resolution scheme to a lower one. I kept the same resolutions for the other two monitors.

In order from Left to Right.
New Resolution Laptop = 2048x1152
Res. Monitor 1= 1920 x 1080
Res. Monitor 2= 1920 x 1200

Then I figured out how to scale icons which you suggested.
Control Panel -> Appearance and Personalization -> Display
Choose "Make text and other items larger or smaller"
Click On: "Let me choose one scaling level for all my displays"
Choose: Smaller - 100%

Not clicking on "Let me choose one scaling level for all my displays" didn't work for me. It refused to scale correctly on its own. Not certain if Windows was reading the resolutions correctly because it always scaled to the laptop which made thing huge on the other two monitors.

As you can see by the screenshots it is a workable solution. I saved it as a Profile in DF and I choose it if it forgets.
-BUT- Here is the biggest pain point which is more annoying or inconvenient rather than hard or difficult.

When I disconnect my laptop from the docking station, the 2048x1152 resolution and "Smaller - 100%" scaling setting makes things more difficult to work with on the laptop itself. I have to immediately and manually change three things.

Change Resolution back to: 3840 x 2160
Change Scaling back to: Extra Larger - 200%
Change Desktop Icons back to Large (Right Click Display -> VIew -> Large Icons)

If I do not do these things, items, windows, menu and notification text and icons are just too small to read without using the magnifying glass tool.

My suggestions are below if they are even possible in the coding for DF Pro.

1. Have the DF Profile be cable of changing at least 3 aspects within Windows. a) The Resolution of the monitors. b) The scaling of the monitors. c) The Desktop Icon size for the monitors. In a perfect world the scaling on each monitor would be independent from the others for perfect scaling effect. At that point you can have a Profile for standalone laptop mode with a single monitor and another Profile for multiple monitor mode at a workstation. If DF can't see this automatically, as written in Suggestion #2 below, then have it so the user chooses the appropriate profile themselves.

2. Have DF recognize when a laptop is standalone and has a single monitor or when it is docked and sees multiple monitors. Then create two profiles, one for single monitor laptop mode and another for multiple monitor workstation mode. Have a setting so it sees that and assigns the appropriate profile. Include suggestion #1 above which is perhaps the more important of the two.

If neither of those are feasible, then at very least find a way to make the icons on monitors with lower resolution be smaller. Which means DF has to be able to read the resolution of the monitor and then pick from an appropriate bank of smaller icons. Which also means having multiple banks of icons specifically for ranges of resolutions. That may fix the issue with icons being too big on the menu bar but it will not fix other scaling issues. It's not a solution necessarily but it could be a workaround.

That's my long post. I hope it gives some ideas and/or helps future DF users.

Thanks!
Jun 6, 2015  • #7
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, glad to hear you found a way to make the Windows scaling work for you! I've put your suggestions on our list as well. If we're able to implement them, I'll be sure to post an update :)
Jun 9, 2015  • #8
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Merle Nicholson
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Keith, Have you had time to look into this? My problem is similar, but different enough:
Windows 10 Pro (the source of the problem)
1 - 4K primary monitor, 1 - 1600x1200 and one 1080x1920. I have the scaling for the 4K set for 125%, and the other two for no scaling - 100%.

Every now and then, probably every day, some unknown event sets two of the monitors, the 4K and the 1080x1920 to 150%, maybe after a blink of all three. When I go to the Win 10 Advanced Display Settings, I see that the settings are for 150% for the 4K and 100% for the other two. I think I have to set all three to 100% and then change the 4K back to 125%. It's disruptive.

150% is the Win 10 recommended scaling for the 4K, but I find I'm happier at 125%. I'd guess that DisplayFusion does not save the scaling number in a monitor profile. If it did, I could at least run the profile to set it all right. What do you think?

Thanks, still happily using DisplayFusion since 2010!
Merle
Mar 10, 2017  • #9
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Not yet, sorry! We will post an update if/when we're able to.

Thanks!
Mar 14, 2017  • #10
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drstrange
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I have the same issue.

New Microsoft Surface Book and two 1080i monitors. The scaling is wrong on the Display Fusion software but not anything else....
Mar 28, 2017  • #11
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@drstrange: That issue should be resolved by logging out/in to Windows, or rebooting. We've also found somewhat of a solution to it for the next beta of DisplayFusion as well.
Mar 28, 2017  • #12
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sf1215
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@KEITH LAMMERS (BFS)
Have you guys done any work with this yet? I have a monitor that is of resolution 1366x768 and my laptop is standard 1920x1080 and I want all of the text to be of the same size but it just ends up being that the text in my monitor is much larger.
Mar 29, 2018  • #13
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
DisplayFusion can't force different DPI levels on each monitor, no. In Windows 10 you should be able to choose different scaling levels for each monitor though.
Mar 29, 2018  • #14
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It's been a long time coming, but we've finally added the ability to set the monitor scaling level in DisplayFusion's Monitor Configuration and Monitor Profiles. This is available in the latest beta version, here: https://www.displayfusion.com/download/beta

Thanks!
Dec 1, 2022  • #15
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