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Desktop icon lag when System Hooks enabled

xenago1
10 discussion posts
When the System Hooks (applications) are enabled, the desktop has obvious lag when hovering over the desktop icons. I have attached a sample clip which demonstrates the issue.

I am using DF pro on Steam 9.8, with Windows 10 Pro 2009 (10.0.19043).

Unusually, it seems like the leftmost two columns of icons are less affected by this issue than the others!

What is also weird, is I have another older machine that does not suffer from this same issue. I tried importing/exporting settings from the unaffected machine, but no change was observed, and running a diff on the .reg files shows the settings are otherwise not much different.
• Attachment: DisplayFusion_desktop_icon_lag_example.mov [9,924,526 bytes]
Jun 3, 2021 (modified Jun 3, 2021)  • #1
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

If you head to the Windows Settings > Power & sleep > Additional Power Settings > Change Plan Settings > Change Advanced Power Settings > Processor Power Management > Minimum/Maximum Processor State, what are those set to?

Thanks!
Jun 3, 2021  • #2
xenago1
10 discussion posts
Power settings are high performance, 100% min/100%max, active cooling, max power in nvidia control panel etc. For context the affected system has 64GB RAM, Ryzen 5900x, RTX 3080. The unaffected system has 16GB RAM, i5 4670k, GTX 1660.
Jun 3, 2021  • #3
xenago1
10 discussion posts
I have attached the two reg files from each machine. They are labeled UNAFFECTED and AFFECTED - the AFFECTED one is from the system which is experiencing the lag. As noted previously, using the Import function on the affected system to restored the settings from the unaffected machine has no effect.
• Attachment [protected]: AFFECTED_DisplayFusion Backup (2021-06-03 @ 02-14, 9.8.0.0, NYX, SettingsWindow).reg [66,454 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: UNAFFECTED_DisplayFusion Backup (2021-06-03 @ 02-12, 9.8.0.0, NOAH-EREBUS, SettingsWindow).reg [66,598 bytes]
Jun 3, 2021  • #4
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

Interesting, I wonder if there is a conflicting Windows setting that's causing this. Could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info? Here are the steps:

  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached

Thanks!
Jun 4, 2021 (modified Jun 4, 2021)  • #5
xenago1
10 discussion posts
Certainly, here are the exports.
• Attachment [protected]: AFFECTED_SYSTEM_DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [28,373 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: UNAFFECTED_SYSTEM_DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [25,034 bytes]
Jun 5, 2021  • #6
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

Thanks for sending those over. It looks like the unaffected version is running Windows 10 v19042, and the affected version is running Windows 10 v19043. Has the issue only started happening since updating to v19043?

Thanks!
Jun 7, 2021  • #7
garrettsmithpro
1 discussion post
Just wanted to add that this is also happening for me. I am on v19043.
I have attached a the log zip file and a gif clip of the problem. I can't verify if this happened on the previous version of Windows 10, as I just installed Windows.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [27,305 bytes]
• Attachment: QzUoKpz.gif [1,197,546 bytes]
QzUoKpz.gif
QzUoKpz.gif
Jun 7, 2021  • #8
xenago1
10 discussion posts
The specific Windows build does not appear to be causing the problem. I just updated my unaffected system to the newer *43 one and it is still unaffected (debug info attached). I will add that my affected system was a fresh Windows install, like garrettsmithpro, whereas my unaffected one has been progressively updated through various DisplayFusion and Windows versions over the years.
• Attachment [protected]: updated_UNAFFECTED_DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [24,637 bytes]
Jun 7, 2021  • #9
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

Are you experiencing any mouse stuttering as well, or is it just the desktop icon delay? Does the delay happen on taskbar icons as well, or just the desktop?

Thanks!
Jun 8, 2021  • #10
xenago1
10 discussion posts
It's tough to say but I don't think there are any other obvious signs of the problem other than operations involving the icons. There may be but I haven't noticed them. Another icon-related lag that occurs with the hook enabled is visible when several icons are selected with the click-drag selection rectangle: when the left mouse button is released after selecting the icons, the blue translucent selection rectangle remains visible for a frame or two longer than it should.
Jun 10, 2021  • #11
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

This is really strange, I can't seem to reproduce it on my end. Are you running any other software that manages your desktop, or wallpaper?

Thanks!
Jun 11, 2021  • #12
xenago1
10 discussion posts
I don't think so? I have attached exports from Nirsoft ShellExView and Sysinternals Autoruns from the machine, maybe there's something in the lists.
• Attachment [protected]: autoruns_export.txt [59,880 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: shellexview_export.txt [19,745 bytes]
Jun 22, 2021  • #13
xenago1
10 discussion posts
I found another place which the lag is visible - the file list in WinSCP. The highlight behind each item in the list is laggy/missing while application hooks are enabled, and when I enable/disable the option in DisplayFusion it crashes/restarts WinSCP.
Jun 25, 2021  • #14
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

Rather then disabling hooks globally, if you head to the compatibility tab, add in winSCP, and turn on "Disable Application Hooks", does that fix it up as well?

Thanks!
Jul 2, 2021  • #15
xenago1
10 discussion posts
Yes, that does seem to improve it in that specific application.
Jul 18, 2021  • #16
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

Interesting, and if you add a compatibility setting for explorer.exe, does that fix up your icons as well, or does the issue persist?

Thanks!
Jul 20, 2021  • #17
xenago1
10 discussion posts
That does seem to help. Does it disable any of the features which would normally stop working when all hooks are disabled?
20 days ago  • #18
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

Interesting, it shouldn't disable any of those features. Does it fix the issue in WinSCP too?

Thanks!
12 days ago  • #19
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