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How to get modern/metro apps to open in desired location and size?

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ronzie009
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I can't figure out how to get Windows modern/metro apps, like the Microsoft Edge browser or Windows settings, to open where I want them and at the size I want. They usually open in full screen on my primary monitor. I have tried using the instructions at https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/configuring-trigger-rules-for-universal-apps/?ID=36119d2c-9928-424c-8cfb-8a60d0e60d69 and modifying them for apps other than Calendar but the trigger never works.

Also, when following those instructions there was a huge delay after checking the "Process Filename" checkbox before the "Select Application" window appears, so long that the titlebar text changes to "not responding",so I was giving up and closing the settings window until I was called away from my computer during one attempt and came back about five minutes later to see the window had opened.
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Aug 11, 2019  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
The slow "Select Application" window issue will be fixed up in the next version.

If you don't specify a Process Filename, and just specify the Window Text (e.g. "Edge"), does that work?
Aug 12, 2019  • #2
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The slow "Select Application" window issue will be fixed up in the next version.

If you don't specify a Process Filename, and just specify the Window Text (e.g. "Edge"), does that work?


It seems to be working with just the window text "Start ‎- Microsoft Edge", for now. I can see it open maximized and then it quickly changes to what I want it to be.
Thanks for your help!

EDIT

Looks like I spoke too soon. The title text changes as the browser opens the home page, the time it takes to settle down dependent on network response time. Even with a 30 second delay it isn't triggering.
Aug 12, 2019 (modified Aug 13, 2019)  • #3
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Try putting just "Edge" in the rule, that will match it regardless of the page title.
Aug 13, 2019  • #4
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Try putting just "Edge" in the rule, that will match it regardless of the page title.

Doesn't help, it's still opening maximized.
Aug 13, 2019  • #5
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Strange! It's working for me when I try that. Could you send me a debug log?

  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Try opening Edge
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log

If you could attach a backup of your Settings as well, that would be great. (Settings > Options > Export)

Thanks!
Aug 13, 2019  • #6
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ronzie009
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Strange! It's working for me when I try that. Could you send me a debug log?

  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Try opening Edge
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log

If you could attach a backup of your Settings as well, that would be great. (Settings > Options > Export)

Thanks!
• Attachment [protected]: 2019-08-13_DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [168,425 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusion Backup (2019-08-13 @ 17-29, 9.5.0.0, RON-LENOVO).reg [379,852 bytes]
Aug 13, 2019  • #7
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! It's working for me using those settings. What page does your Edge window open to by default?
Aug 14, 2019  • #8
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ronzie009
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Thanks! It's working for me using those settings. What page does your Edge window open to by default?

https://account.microsoft.com/rewards/
The browser tab shows different text as the page loads and I am automatically logged in. Eventually it says "Microsoft account | Rewards Dashboard ‎- Microsoft Edge". I have tried using some or all of the text, and adding a delay, but the trigger doesn't work consistently, except the last few dozen times I've tried, when it consistently doesn't work.
Aug 14, 2019  • #9
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Ok, what if you disable the Window Text condition, and just put
*edge*
(include the asterisks) as the Process Filename?
Aug 15, 2019 (modified Aug 15, 2019)  • #10
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Ok, what if you disable the Window Text condition, and just put
*edge*
(include the asterisks) as the Process Filename?

Does nothing..
Aug 15, 2019  • #11
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Ok, could you send me a debug log?
  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Try launching Edge, and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log
Aug 16, 2019  • #12
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ronzie009
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Ok, could you send me a debug log?
  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Try launching Edge, and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log
• Attachment [protected]: 2019-08-16_DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [223,995 bytes]
Aug 16, 2019  • #13
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Thanks! It looks like Edge is getting hooked, but the Trigger still isn't firing for some reason. Could you send me an updated backup of your settings?
Aug 16, 2019  • #14
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ronzie009
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Thanks! It looks like Edge is getting hooked, but the Trigger still isn't firing for some reason. Could you send me an updated backup of your settings?
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusion Backup (2019-08-16 @ 15-29, 9.5.0.0, RON-LENOVO).reg [379,684 bytes]
Aug 16, 2019  • #15
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! I did have some trouble when using your settings backup. Here's how I was able to make it work reliably on my machine. Please see the attached screenshot for reference.
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Aug 19, 2019  • #16
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ronzie009
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Thanks! I did have some trouble when using your settings backup. Here's how I was able to make it work reliably on my machine. Please see the attached screenshot for reference.


Thanks for trying, but it still won't work. :(
Aug 19, 2019 (modified Aug 19, 2019)  • #17
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Strange! How are you launching Edge? (Desktop icon, taskbar button, Start menu?)
Aug 21, 2019  • #18
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ronzie009
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Strange! How are you launching Edge? (Desktop icon, taskbar button, Start menu?)

I usually use a button pinned to the taskbar. I just tried opening it from the start menu a number of times and it worked properly every time. I then tried from the taskbar button and it worked as desired every time but one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Aug 21, 2019  • #19
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Interesting! Is the pinned taskbar button on the Primary monitor taskbar, or the second monitor taskbar?
Aug 21, 2019  • #20
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Interesting! Is the pinned taskbar button on the Primary monitor taskbar, or the second monitor taskbar?

Primary.
Aug 21, 2019  • #21
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, thanks! That's how I was testing it too, no idea why yours is behaving differently :(

If you launch it from a desktop icon, does the Trigger rule work?
Aug 22, 2019  • #22
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ronzie009
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Just thought I'd let you know that it's now working. I don't know why, I haven't changed any settings in DF. I just hope I'm not jinxing myself by posting this!
Aug 29, 2019  • #23
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