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mrarbitersir
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I am going to screenshot this post as an example. Fullscreen applications randomly hide behind the taskbar making certain website unusable because of inputs at the bottom of the screen.

It is happening with the Discord App, Opera GX, Steam, Epic Games Launcher, Jagex Launcher etc.

Windows 11. DF Pro (Steam) v9.9.

I have taskbar position manually set to Bottom.

Show taskbar in front of full screen is disabled in settings.

It randomly happens 1/4 times I start my computer without having to actually change setting and having to restart my pc just for a program to work as intended is becoming very cumbersome.

Pictures showing the issue attached with numerous programs including YouTube on Fullscreen.
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Jul 28, 2022  • #1
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info? Here are the steps:
  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached

Also, are you running Start11?

Thanks!
Jul 28, 2022  • #2
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mrarbitersir
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Debug is attached.

I am NOT running Start11
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [32,282 bytes]
Jul 31, 2022  • #3
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for sending that over. It looks like you have "General: Ignore Full Screen Windows" enabled in the DisplayFusion Advanced Settings. If you set that back to the default value and restart DisplayFusion, it should fix that up for full screen applications like Youtube videos.

For non-full screen maximized windows, does restarting Explorer.exe fix that up when the issue happens?

Thanks!
Aug 2, 2022  • #4
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mrarbitersir
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Flicking that setting hasn't fixed the issue. Now the taskbar is hiding behind maximised applications like Discord and Chrome (I can't see it).

The only way to make the taskbar visible is to move all applications to the other monitor and only then does the bar become visible.

When I move the applications back to the other monitor they taskbar overlays the bottom of the window before disappearing a few moments later.

Restarting explorer through Task Manager does not solve the issue.
Aug 3, 2022 (modified Aug 3, 2022)  • #5
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Michael Dermer
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I am having this same issue with all applications. Any ideas?
Running Windows 11 pro (21H2, 10.0.22000.0), Display Fusion Pro 9.9
Aug 3, 2022 (modified Aug 3, 2022)  • #6
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@mrarbitersir Okay that's expected, as you have "Show taskbar in front of full screen applications" disabled. It seems like DisplayFusion is seeing those maximized applications as full screen windows though. Could you send me over another copy of your troubleshooting info while you have Discord and Chrome open?

@MichaelDermer Can you update to our latest beta and see if the issue persists?

Thanks!
Aug 3, 2022  • #7
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Michael Dermer
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Quote:


@MichaelDermer Can you update to our latest beta and see if the issue persists?

Thanks!


I am now running Beta 10.0 (Beta 16) and it is fixed! Thank you.
Aug 3, 2022  • #8
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mrarbitersir
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On restart, the issue seems to have fixed itself but it seems to intermittently return.

While the issue is temporarily resolved, I'm getting this weird intermittent flicker on the taskbar where it seems to momentarily flash/disappear and return. Once every second for like a couple of milliseconds like it isn't keeping up with the refresh rate of the monitor or something.

I've noticed I can reproduce the issue if I turn the monitors off and turn them on again as well. Once this happens, the taskbar no longer registers and disappears completely. When it shows up, it is hiding the bottom portion of maximised windows. I have shared two debug reports before and after reproducing the bug to see if there are any inconsistencies.

There's another issue which seems to have popped up around the time of installing DF, but I'm not entirely sure if it's related or not. I'll run some troubleshoots. The issue is in the first 10 seconds of turning monitors on (whether its at startup or when windows has fully logged in after a period of time) I get this crazy flicker of both monitors on and off for about 10-15 seconds. Once this time passes the monitors are acting like normal.

I've read this could be a driver issue which I updated around the same time as installation so I'll wait for nVidia to update their drivers before linking the two or ruling out DF. For reference I'm running a nVidia 3070.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo AFTER SCREEN OFF AND ON.zip [31,552 bytes]
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Aug 3, 2022  • #9
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for sending those over, it looks like DisplayFusion is detecting that Opera window as full screen. Do you have any compatibility settings setup in DisplayFusion for that application?

That flickering on boot is strange. If you disable DisplayFusion from starting with Windows, does the issue persist?

Thanks!
Aug 4, 2022  • #10
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cantprefire
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I have similar issues,
currently using Win 11 pro 22H2.

Issue 1: Full screen chrome extends below taskbar with taskbar in front of chrome
Issue 2: Every time I open display fusion, it requires steam to open and stuff.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo_230728_1135.zip [64,698 bytes]
Jul 28, 2023  • #11
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
1. In the DisplayFusion Settings > Taskbar tab, do you have "Show taskbar in front of full screen applications when they lose focus" enabled?

2. Do you have a Steam license key?
Jul 31, 2023  • #12
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Gechsy
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Hi there I have the same problem with 2 out of 4 of my monitors - particularly an issue when some applications have buttons appearing at the bottom that become invisible, and for applications with tabs at the bottom. I checked Advanced Settings and no default settings have been changed. Nor could I find the "show taskbar in front of full screen applications" option mentioned above. I've attached my debug file FYI
• Attachment: DisplayFusionDebugInfo.zip [96,541 bytes]
Aug 31, 2023  • #13
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me over a video of the issue?
Aug 31, 2023  • #14
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Gechsy
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Hi Owen. sure please find attached. You will see when I start taskbar is hidden and you can see the application tabs, when I change taskbar status to visible the application does not adjust and the tabs are hidden under the taskbar. This is the case for all applications. Thanks a lot
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Sep 1, 2023  • #15
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for sending that over, does this only happen on monitors where you have auto hide enabled?

Also could you update to our latest beta and send me over another copy of your troubleshooting info? Here's the link: https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/
Sep 1, 2023  • #16
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Gechsy
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Hi Owen, it happens when autohide is disabled - I have only started to use autohide because I can't access the tabs on said applications! will let you know how I get on with the beta install
Sep 1, 2023  • #17
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Gechsy
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Hi I installed v10.8 but it doesn't seem to have changed anything, see video at this URL, once again with autohide disabled, the application is maximized and the tabs are set beneath the taskbar:
https://somup.com/c0QV2vAzi1
Sep 1, 2023 (modified Sep 1, 2023)  • #18
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me over an updated copy of your troubleshooting info from that beta?
Sep 5, 2023  • #19
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Gechsy
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Sure here it is
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo050923.zip [134,551 bytes]
Sep 5, 2023  • #20
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for sending that over, everything looks good there. If you turn on the "Enable Prompt to Restart Explorer When Issue Detected" advanced setting, does a prompt appear when the issue happens?
Sep 5, 2023  • #21
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JOHN L RAPPEL
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I can confirm the same issue occurs for me. The only remedy is to restart- which is obviously not convenient.
Dec 4, 2023  • #22
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info? Here are the steps:

  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached
Dec 4, 2023  • #23
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JOHN L RAPPEL
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I had it happen again and this time I told DisplayFusion to restart Windows Explorer. After restarting the Windows Explorer process, the windows are now displaying properly- so that is quick fix in the future... Open Task Manager, select Windows Explorer then Restart task.
Dec 4, 2023  • #24
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JOHN L RAPPEL
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Here you go...
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Dec 4, 2023  • #25
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@JOHN L RAPPEL: Are you running Start11 or Explorer Patcher? The troubleshooting info says no, but just wanted to double-check. If restarting Explorer fixes it, it's not likely something we can fix from our end. Something in Explorer is preventing DisplayFusion from registering the workarea for the taskbar :(
Dec 5, 2023  • #26
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Gechsy
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Quote:
Thanks for sending that over, everything looks good there. If you turn on the "Enable Prompt to Restart Explorer When Issue Detected" advanced setting, does a prompt appear when the issue happens?


Hi Owen, sorry for slow response, thanks this seems to have resolved the issue for me. When it fails I get a message advising there is a memory issue and to restart windows. After this has happened the problem is resolved.
Dec 6, 2023  • #27
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear it, thanks for confirming!
Dec 6, 2023  • #28
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Gechsy
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Hi guys. What do I do when this situation happens but the windows reset box doesn't appear? is there an easy way to manually reset windows explorer? I tried John's solution but can't see Windows Explorer on Task Manager
Dec 15, 2023 (modified Dec 15, 2023)  • #29
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Try this out:

  • Right-click the taskbar, choose "Task Manager"
  • Click the Details tab
  • Find explorer.exe in the list, right click it, and choose End Process
  • Click File > Run new task
  • Type explorer.exe and click OK
Dec 15, 2023  • #30
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JOHN L RAPPEL
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I have found that my machine enters this state rather reliably after I go from an undocked state (laptop-only) to a docked state (laptop plus 4 screens). I do not shutdown or anything between these states, I plug and unplug while I am in the middle of things. I do it this way because I need to be mobile and I don't like losing the state of my apps. I am hoping this further information can help lead to a permanent fix.
Jan 3, 2024  • #31
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Gechsy
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Hi Keith, I can confirm the manual reset works, I managed to rerun explorer.exe by clicking on "Run new task" in Windows explorer.exe, but most times the auto reset is kicking in. Like John I am running 4 screens and often very low on memory so assume will happen less when I get a more powerful laptop. Thanks for your help
Jan 3, 2024  • #32
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David Hunter
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I have found that my machine enters this state rather reliably after I go from an undocked state (laptop-only) to a docked state (laptop plus 4 screens). I do not shutdown or anything between these states, I plug and unplug while I am in the middle of things. I do it this way because I need to be mobile and I don't like losing the state of my apps. I am hoping this further information can help lead to a permanent fix.


Echoing this -- going from undocked to docked (2 monitors in my case) is exactly when this happens for me. Displayfusion's function for half-screen left/right (which I use constantly) hides the bottom under the taskbar. Using Windows' Snap function dragging the window to the left or right does work (but obviously I like DisplayFusion's function including keyboards shortcuts infinitely better). Restarting explorer.exe did not work, but following Keith's instructions to end the explorer.exe process on the details tab and then start it as a new task, did work.

edit: My computer is not short on memory (16gb RAM for mostly office work).
Feb 24, 2024 (modified Feb 24, 2024)  • #33
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Cheesepile
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Having this same issue on v10.1.2 Win 11, 32Gb of RAM. After finding this thread, restarting explorer seems to fix it.
Mar 2, 2024  • #34
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Adam Bennett2
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Has there been any solution to this issue? I have had this for well over a year. It is intermittent and restarting explorer does reset the problem but thats a frustrating work around for a $50 piece of software I literally only purchased in order to be able to change between 3 screens. like thats the only thing i use it for. to switch between my two pc monitors and my TV. because windows cant handle 3 screens apparently. And basically ever since ive bought it ive had this issue and theres been no fix i can find. please update.
22 days ago  • #35
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It's not something we can fix in DisplayFusion unfortunately. The issue isn't something that DisplayFusion is doing, but rather that explorer.exe (a Windows component) gets into a state where when DisplayFusion creates its taskbar on the second monitor, Windows just doesn't reserve the space for it like it's supposed to.

DisplayFusion doesn't say "create this window and please reserve this amount of space for it." We tell it to create a docked window (AppBar) at the bottome edge, and Windows is supposed to adjust the work area to reserve the space. For whatever reason, it just doesn't sometimes and the only resolution is to restart explorer.exe.

It happens to me frequently as well, if we could solve it, we definitely would :laugh:
21 days ago  • #36
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