Processing Ajax...

Title
Close Dialog

Message

Confirm
Close Dialog

Confirm
Close Dialog

Confirm
Close Dialog

User Image
Nodiaque
18 discussion posts
Hello,

I'm on Windows 8.1 x64 (fresh install) and since I installed DF, the startup (after logon) is very long. Looking at the startup manager, DF is on the High impact list. Disabling DF restore myself to a normal speed.

My computer is made to run fast, it's on an intel SSD, 4.2 ghz i7, 6gig of ram... Normally, I login and bam, ready to go. Now, I go to the desktop, I see the second taskbar haven't loaded and if I request an app (let's say firefox), it lag behind for the time DF start.
Nov 24, 2013  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you try the following to see if it makes any difference?
  • Open Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
  • Find "DisplayFusionService" in the list and double-click it
  • Set it to disabled and reboot

Please let me know how that works out and we'll go from there :)

Thanks!
Nov 26, 2013  • #2
User Image
Nodiaque
18 discussion posts
It make a huge difference

edit: oh wait the service, I was in the startup list, let me try again

It's better, but still slower then without DF in startup
Nov 30, 2013 (modified Nov 30, 2013)  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, could you try disabling the DisplayFusion features one at a time? I'd start with the taskbars, then try the titlebar buttons, and then try key combinations and the stuff on the Window Management tab. Just want to figure out whether there's a specific feature that's causing it to boot up slowly on your system.
Dec 3, 2013  • #4
User Image
Nodiaque
18 discussion posts
The only thing I', using is taskbar, wallpaper and key combination. Everything else is not used (no icon, window management, nothing). My guess is the taskbar, I'll check
Dec 14, 2013  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sounds good, keep me posted :)
Dec 16, 2013  • #6
User Image
Donald24
3 discussion posts
Uh, old thread, but the problem ist still existing on an Win10 x64 with nvidia-graphics (if that matters at all..)

Booting and logging in are dramatically reduced by 55 seconds after setting the displayfusionservice to "delayed start". It took me quite some time to find the culprit.

So I figure that on an NVME-ssd as systemdrive it maybe necessary to delay the start a bit..

Greetings,

Don
Feb 9, 2017  • #7
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Donald: That's strange! Was it delaying the login, sitting at the "logging in" screen? Or delayed after getting to the desktop?
Feb 9, 2017  • #8
User Image
Donald24
3 discussion posts
Hey Keith,

well it seems it delays the pre-login phase (circle dots on screen) AND the login itself (after sending the password). I could prove this on two separate Win10-installs on my machine.

Putting the service to delayed start solves this instantly.

I could send you a boot-trace if interested.

Greetings,
Don
Feb 10, 2017  • #9
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sure, that would be great! When it's set to Automatic, after it's finally logged in, is the service actually running? I'm wondering if startup is timing out waiting for the service to start.
Feb 10, 2017  • #10
User Image
Donald24
3 discussion posts
Hey,

I've just made the traces ready for you. Analyzing them, yes, the service starts at about 11 sec trace time. (in Normal)
Password entry durance is about 4 seconds each and after logging in, I've waited until every autostart process finished successfully then stopped logging.

The only system difference of the two is the setting of the DF-service.

I've protected the attachments, please use with discretion.

Really this is not a real problem for me, because I know how to circumvent it. And if there is no reason for the service running that early, why not make the delayed start a standard?
• Attachment [protected]: DF_delayed.7z [11,303,833 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: Normal.7z [12,114,281 bytes]
Feb 12, 2017  • #11
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! I suspect using Delayed Start is probably fine, but we'll have to do some more in-depth testing here to make sure :)
Feb 15, 2017  • #12
User Image
Sheldon M Andres95929
6 discussion posts
I am experiencing the same... A delayed startup and I have nvidia graphics and Win 10... I also have a couple other problems too... Not sure if they are due to Display Fusion or not, I will try the disabling of the service... But one is on and off when using the DF screen saver, when stopping the screen saver with my mouse, it goes to a solid color and just hangs there as if it is frozen. I press Ctrl + Alt + Del and then Cancel and I can go back to my desktop.
Another thing, I've been bugging nvidia about and all they say is "update your drivers", "preform a clean install of drivers" and many other useless things... though I'm going to try maybe disabling Display Fusion for a couple of days and see if the issue persists... The issue is, when waking from a long like "all night" sleep of my computer, it won't play sound through HDMI... I can see the sound level move up and down, but no sound... I switch out hdmi ports so that I can make it another day without having to do a complete restart of my computer...
I will post back here with my results... Will be hard though to not have DF for a few days, I use it so much and enjoy it so much! Anyway, just thought I'd add to this a little... ;)
Feb 19, 2017 (modified Feb 19, 2017)  • #13
User Image
Sheldon M Andres95929
6 discussion posts
So I've done some testing... Remembered shortly after this post one way to increase my startup speed is to go into msconfig and under Boot and then Advanced Options there is a setting to use all cores on startup... That helped a bit with the slow startup... However, after disabling DF from starting, I've found that my computer when waking from sleep, no longer loses sound. I tried running DF again hoping I wasn't right, but a few days of running it, I was getting the loss of sound after waking. Disabled it again and the issue went away...
I'm pretty certain it has to do with the new nvidia video cards, I used to have an AMD video card and never experienced this issue, until about when I put in the nvidia card...
I have an nvidia gtx 1060 6gb card... Hope this helps find the issue...
Feb 28, 2017  • #14
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Do you have any Monitor Profiles configured in DisplayFusion? If so, do they have Audio Devices assigned to them?
Feb 28, 2017  • #15
User Image
Sheldon M Andres95929
6 discussion posts
No, I don't have any monitor profiles... Should I?
Feb 28, 2017  • #16
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No, I was wondering if you might have one setup that was changing the audio device automatically. When you say that the sound isn't working, how do you fix it? Just exit DisplayFusion and the sound starts working again?
Mar 1, 2017  • #17
User Image
Sheldon M Andres95929
6 discussion posts
No, I have to do a complete restart. I've switched the HDMI ports around and then can get sound until the next day... but it completely seems to cut out the sound, other than I can see the volume level go up in the sound settings, but no sound... Is really strange and then without DF running, I don't have that problem...
Mar 1, 2017 (modified Mar 1, 2017)  • #18
User Image
Ben_
157 discussion posts
Quote:
msconfig setting to use all cores on startup.


That's a myth. The option is only there for Windows debugging purposes.
Mar 7, 2017  • #19
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It still sounds to me like the audio output might be switching for some reason. When this happens again, if you right-click the DisplayFusion tray icon, then choose the correct output from the "Audio Devices" sub-menu, does that fix the issue?
Mar 8, 2017  • #20
User Image
Sheldon M Andres95929
6 discussion posts
Okay, so I see the msconfig is a myth... Actually timed it and seems to boot faster without the processors selected... Though what a frustrating day... I unselected the processors but left the max memory, which for some reason switches to 0... well my pc wouldn't boot... so after doing a system image restore and such... finally tested this all out... I'm not messing with msconfig settings again... what a headache...
Then with timing it, am surprised at how fast it actually does boot... about a minute and 20 seconds... just seems to hang a little right after landing on the desktop, but could be because I have things installed on both C and D... one is SSD and the other isn't... though hopefully over the weekend I'll get a new 1TB SSD with everything installed on it... :D Should speed it up some more...

As for the sound issue, that wouldn't help... but I think and should know probably by tomorrow if I've fixed the issue... I bought an optical cable because I had the issue happen again without DF running... So I was like heck with it, buy an optical cable and use my sound card... well, my home theatre won't put the sound through the optical cable, because I have 2 HDMI cables plugged into the back of my TV and it switches to ARC and plays the sound through the home theatre, even though the cable is plugged in the OUT... Now that I found fascinating and probably would have done it sooner if I had known it would do that... Anyway, so I will post back tomorrow or the next day to see if the sound happens again with DF...
I know not running DF did help, I did see an improvement...

Hopefully this isn't all too confusing...
Mar 9, 2017  • #21
User Image
Sheldon M Andres95929
6 discussion posts
So seems like with the change of putting the audio into the tv and letting it pass through to the home theatre has fixed the problem... :D I still think it's strange, but must actually be something with nvidia's card or something like that... I'm not too sure, just happy that it's working proper now... :D

Also now that I've installed the new hard drive and installing everything on my C, Windows is starting much faster... about 40 - 45 seconds and all loaded into Windows, though I haven't setup Skype and SkypefBus yet... Hopefully they won't slow me down, though now I'll know what might slow the startup...

Also I've now loaded my desktop background images onto the C (SSD) I'm hoping I won't get the freeze when stopping the screen saver issue, but will report on that later on if I experience any issues... If not, well then guess all was a false alarm... sorry about that...
Mar 12, 2017  • #22
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No worries, glad to hear it's all good now!
Mar 14, 2017  • #23
Subscribe to this discussion topic using RSS
Was this helpful?  Login to Vote(-)  Login to Vote(-)