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Titlebar buttons extra tiny. So is DF menu... and ALL Binary Fortress apps, too.

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sfwrtr
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Look at the screen capture, first.

Starting with this beta of DF, title buttons became very tiny. I also updated FileSeek during this time. Sadly, I think I also updated Windows 10 Pro to 10.0.18362.0. For whatever reason, everything is tiny in Binary Fortress world--buttons, menus, panels, dialogs.... I will also point out that I am running using MS Remote Desktop on my Mac (all up to date) and thanks to COVID and a kindly boss, that will continue that way for an indeterminate amount of time. I suspect this is environmental, but am not sure. Best I can tell, only Binary Fortress apps are misbehaving.

Can you help me debug this?
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20 days ago  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It looks like maybe Windows is reporting the scaling level wrong. If you sign out of the remote session (not just closing the session, but a full sign out of Windows) and then sign in again, how does it look?
19 days ago  • #2
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sfwrtr
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More info: This appears to be related to Remote Desktop on the Macintosh. Specifically, there is under the Display tab a check-box labeled: Optimize for Retina Displays (see attachment). This was on. I turned it off and the symptom went away. All DF menus, apps, and title bar icons are right-sized.

What appears to happen is that RD starts the session with super-high resolution (Retina on Mac means high-dpi), then after a few moments, Windows adjusts (perhaps) the scaling or dpi, making the interface elements bigger so humans can read them. You can see this happening as windows rescale one after another. (I could use snagit if you want to capture the show.) DF and Binary Fortress apps appear to be using the original super resolution.

This strikes me as something you may want to investigate. Other apps show right-sized dynamically. Are your apps ignoring the scaling changes?

In any case, I can toggle the feature on/off and gather debugging info, traces, movies, etc. Just ask. I consider your programs essential and I want them to work their best.
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16 days ago  • #3
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Ah, interesting, good find! DisplayFusion normally should pick up the scaling changes for most things. There are a couple of taskbar elements that use system fonts which don't get updated until a full logout/login, but everything else should be ok. My guess is that Windows isn't notifying DF of the scaling change when it happens. If you just restart DisplayFusion when it happens, does that work?
16 days ago  • #4
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sfwrtr
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Sadly, no. I exited DF, then restarted. Same symptom, which leads me to believe that with Retina-optimization, I am still running at super-high resolution. which explains why screen refreshing is sometimes so slow. (Note that if I run File Seek or Clipboard Fusion, they present micro-interfaces as shown in the attachment.)

So I tried to check what resolution and scaling Windows 10 is using in Settings > Display > Scale and layout. Windows states: "The display settings can't be changed from a remote session" and then blanks out all the fields so you can't see what they are set at! I hope your diagnostics can capture this obsfuscated info.

What do you want me to do? I can gather any data you need.
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16 days ago  • #5
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When you have the Retina option enabled, if you run this at a PowerShell prompt, what does the ApplieDPI value show as?

Code

10 days ago  • #6
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sfwrtr
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Here you go... Note the tiny titlebar buttons.

For grins and giggles, I restored my window positions saved prior to using the Retina setting. It worked, but restored everything not maximized or minimized shrunk by visually by at least 50% and shifted over to the right as if the window positions where measured as positions from the right side of the screen. Thought you'd find that interesting.
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10 days ago (modified 10 days ago)  • #7
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! Unfortunately Windows is reporting that it's at 100% DPI (96 = 100%), so for some reason, even though Windows itself seems to know the monitor should be scaled, it's not passing that on to DF when it asks for it
5 days ago  • #8
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Hi guys. Per Keith's and my discussion in the other thread, I'm having the exact same issue, and turning off Retina optimization did indeed fix it, but I'm hoping there's a way to get back to that optimization without still having a tiny DisplayFusion and window buttons. So I'm following this thread and happy to help in any way I can.

EDIT: Okay, yes, it's a huge difference in all the other apps when I turn off Retina optimization, and not in a good way, so that's a no-go solution unfortuantely. For now I'll have to enlarge the window buttons (not ideal because they don't always line up correctly) so that I can see them.
2 days ago (modified 2 days ago)  • #9
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