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Roger Sinasohn
26 discussion posts
When I first installed the latest update, I could have sworn that the z-order problem was fixed.

Z-order is the order that programs appear in the alt-tab list. The current program is first, the one used most recently before that is second, etc. That is, if you're using MSWord and you alt-tab to MSExcel, then MSExcel is #1, MSWord is #2, and other programs are in order starting with the most recently used.

In earlier versions of Windows, when you minimized a program/window, it went to the bottom of the z-order and appeared last in the Alt-Tab dialog. This is as it should be; if you've minimized something, you most likely don't want it to be the pgm that you Alt-Tab to next.

In the most recent versions of Windows, however, this functionality has been broken. If you minimize a program focus goes to whatever program was #2 in the z-order (correct) but the program you minimized becomes #2 instead of going to the bottom of the z-order.

So, after installing the latest update, I got all excited because it seemed like minimized windows were going to the bottom of the z-order. Now, however, it's back to Microsoft's broken behaviour instead.

Did I just imagine that the z-order was fixed or was that really something that happened? If the latter, is there a way to get it working again? In trying to fix the Alt-Tab display issue, I might have messed with something that turned it off? Or maybe no one knows what I'm talking about and it was my imagination?
Sep 12, 2023  • #1
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hi Roger,

The intended function is minimizing a window shouldn't make it move in the AltTab order. As long as it's the last window that had focus, it should still appear second in the list.

If it comes back, could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info? Here are the steps:

  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached

Thanks!
Sep 14, 2023  • #2
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Roger Sinasohn
26 discussion posts
Quote:
Hi Roger,

The intended function is minimizing a window shouldn't make it move in the AltTab order. As long as it's the last window that had focus, it should still appear second in the list.

If it comes back, could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info?


I suppose I could but if it comes back, I'd want it to stay fixed. 8^)

But, yes, I'll send along my troubleshooting info so long as you promise that, if you change it, you make it an option to work correctly.
Sep 14, 2023  • #3
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We might be able to add it in as a feature. I've added it to our list, but we don't guarantee we'll add it in :)
Sep 15, 2023  • #4
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Roger Sinasohn
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So I installed the new non-beta 10.1.2 and ended up having to reboot because of something else I'd installed. When I rebooted, my monitors were all mucked up (640x480) which persisted until I unplugged their DisplayPort cables and reconnected them. Had another instance of everything going wonky for a moment and then all my windows ending up in the wrong places but it seems to be okay now. I don't know if all that was from the new version of DP or from the other software (a USB toolkit needed for a keyboard programmer). In any case, that's not the issue now....

So, the z-order fix came back. I don't know if it will stick around or not but one can always hope. Per your request, here's my troubleshooting info.

Quote:
Hi Roger,

The intended function is minimizing a window shouldn't make it move in the AltTab order. As long as it's the last window that had focus, it should still appear second in the list.

If it comes back, could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info? Here are the steps:

  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached

Thanks!
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo - z-order.zip [58,920 bytes]
Oct 13, 2023 (modified Oct 13, 2023)  • #5
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