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Hollo
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Hello,
In Beta4, moving a maximized window between monitors is not possible.
They can still be moved by keybinds and mouse clicks but not draggable.
Confirmed it broke in this version by rolling back to Beta3 where it still works.
Jun 1, 2023  • #1
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me over a debug log? Here are the steps:

  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Reproduce the issue and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log
Jun 1, 2023  • #2
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Hollo
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PFA the requested log, timestamp is 08:24 but it's the only thing I did while logging was enabled.
First I tried to move a window by dragging, then moved it by middle-click, tried dragging again, and then did the same with moving it with hotkey.
Both middle-click and hotkey moving works, dragging does not.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo_202306020825.zip [116,009 bytes]
Jun 2, 2023  • #3
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Hollo
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Another thing that might be of interest: I've been observing middle-click moving not working in ~80% of cases when the window I'm trying to move is not the active window. This has been going on for some weeks (maybe a few months?) but was working fine earlier.

And in Beta4, there is an even bigger issue: sometimes when middle-clicking somewhere in the middle of a window (e.g. Firefox, trying to open a link in a new tab), the window moves to the next monitor like I was clicking on the title bar.
Jun 2, 2023 (modified Jun 2, 2023)  • #4
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for sending that over, we'll take a look into it and let you know if we need any other info.

Thanks!
Jun 2, 2023  • #5
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've released a new beta that might fix this up. Can you try it out and let me know your results? Here's the link: https://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/
Jul 5, 2023  • #6
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Hollo
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Still not working :(
Also there is something wrong with the installer, I had to click on "Run" like 8 times to get it started, then it froze and didn't appear for minutes.
Jul 5, 2023  • #7
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for letting us know, we'll open this back up to take another look into and let you know if we need any other info.
Jul 6, 2023  • #8
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've released a new beta with some added logging. Could you update and send me over a log? Here are the steps:

  • On the DisplayFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal" and click Apply
  • Reproduce the issue and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button on the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Reply with the file attached
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log
Aug 3, 2023  • #9
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Hollo
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Hi,

Log attached, timestamp is 19:28.
This version is even worse, middle-click move stopped working as well for Firefox (weirdly, some other applications I've tried still can be moved by middle-click).
During logging, first I tried to move the window by dragging, then tried middle-click (which worked in every version until this one) then keybind. Keybind still works for every application I've tried.
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo_20230803.zip [185,112 bytes]
Aug 3, 2023 (modified Aug 3, 2023)  • #10
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for sending that over, we got some more changes coming in our next beta.

For Firefox, are you middle clicking the minimize/maximize buttons?
Aug 9, 2023  • #11
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Hollo
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Thanks for the update!

I'm not middle-clicking any buttons, just somewhere in the the middle of the titlebar.
Aug 9, 2023  • #12
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It seems to be working fine on my end. What version of Firefox are you running?
Aug 9, 2023  • #13
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Hollo
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105.0.1 (64-bit)
Aug 9, 2023  • #14
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Do you have the menu bars enabled in Firefox?
Aug 10, 2023  • #15
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Hollo
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Yes, I have menu bar and normal titlebar (I'm not clicking on the menu bar).
I think I also had to enable "Treat Top-Tab Browser Windows as Standard Windows" for it to work with normal titlebar (it was a long time ago so I can't remember exactly why but I just checked and this option is enabled now).
Aug 10, 2023 (modified Aug 10, 2023)  • #16
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Yeah Firefox treats middle clicks as creating a new tab, so you need the advanced setting enabled for this to work.

Can you confirm rolling back to the last beta fixes it up? Here's the link: https://www.binaryfortress.com/Data/Download/?DownloadID=140dcb38-4ee7-41aa-9471-886ed9f2d5f2&Log=0
Aug 11, 2023  • #17
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Hollo
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Yes sorry if I wasn't clear enough, this problem with Firefox specifically only came up in Beta7, it was working in every previous version.
I was even testing it with Firefox so you can find an example of it working in my previous log.
Aug 11, 2023 (modified Aug 11, 2023)  • #18
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
The latest version of FireFox (v116) seems to support middle clicking the titlebar again. We're going to add the code back in for the next beta and see if it fixes this up. You won't need that advanced setting enabled anymore as well.
Aug 15, 2023  • #19
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've released a new beta that should fix up the maximize and Firefox issue, could you try it out and let me know if the issue persists?
Aug 22, 2023  • #20
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Hollo
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Middle-clicking the Firefox titlebar works again, but maximized windows still cannot be dragged.
Also, moving Firefox with middle-click is very slow compared to anything else and to moving it with keybind as well.
About the issue with middle-clicking inside Firefox (and not the titlebar) moving the window, I can't really test because it's intermittent and I just can't keep using a version where window dragging doesn't work.
Aug 22, 2023 (modified Aug 22, 2023)  • #21
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me over an updated debug log for both issues?
Aug 23, 2023  • #22
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Hollo
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Attached.
Timestamp: 16:04-16:05.
I. Firefox:
1. middle click - works but very slow
2. keybind - works fine
3. drag - doesn't work
II. Total Commander
1. middle click - works fine
2. keybind - works fine
3. drag - doesn't work
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusionDebugInfo_20230823.zip [279,383 bytes]
Aug 23, 2023  • #23
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Hollo
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I'm happy to report that dragging is working again in Beta9.
Moving Firefox or Thunderbird with middle-click is still slow though (only with click, not keybind, and only these as far as I can tell).
Is there anything that can be done about this?

Thanks!
Sep 1, 2023 (modified Sep 1, 2023)  • #24
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear :)

The Firefox one is hard to fix without and local repro and nothing showing up in the log. If you exit ESET, does the issue persist?
Sep 1, 2023  • #25
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Hollo
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ESET can't be exited, I think the only way is to uninstall it but even that is very hard to do. :)
Shouldn't be the cause though because the issue wouldn't affect Thunderbird I think.
Also the slowness is a relatively new thing, noticed it first in Beta8 IIRC.
Sep 1, 2023 (modified Sep 1, 2023)  • #26
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Sep 6, 2023  • #27
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Hollo
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If you meant to link 10.1-Beta2 from around April then yes, this is actually the last version that worked well and I have been using it ever since.
Sep 6, 2023  • #28
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Yeah that was the last beta we had the ESET fix in before we had to remove it due to other issues. We'll need to find another work around here, so I'll re-open it for us to take another look at.

Thanks!
Sep 6, 2023  • #29
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Hollo
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Alright, let me know if I can do any further tests or logs.

About the Firefox moving when clicking inside the window and not the titlebar, do you have any idea what the cause could be or maybe how to easily reproduce it? It seems very sporadic and I haven't been able to pinpoint anything about it. This was already present in Beta2 if that helps at all.
Or should I open a new topic for this one?

Thanks!
Sep 6, 2023 (modified Sep 6, 2023)  • #30
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Let's create a new topic for that, as this one is getting a bit long. Could you send over a video of that issue?
Sep 6, 2023  • #31
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Hollo
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I've created a new topic for the wrong moving problem:
https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/firefox-middle-click-inside-the-window-moves-it-to-next-monitor/?ID=1301c137-6b7a-4c88-9569-cb9fd3b29aa7

So we can keep this one for the issue about the actually indended window moving.
Sep 6, 2023 (modified Sep 6, 2023)  • #32
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Hollo
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This technically works in beta5 but now affected by the unmaximize/slow problem (https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/maximized-windows-open-and-move-as-unmaximized/?ID=70b1df91-e3e2-4367-bc49-1764796c09c1#last) and just as awfully slow as the other methods.
Jun 26, 2024 (modified Jun 28, 2024)  • #33
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Hollo
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Still present in Beta7.
14 days ago  • #34
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