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crdowner
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I am using DisplayFusion 3.1.8.107 on Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bit. Many of my job functions require me to launch applications using "Run as administrator". The hot key to move window to next monitor is not working as expected for windows lauched using "Run as administrator". If the window is maximized when the title bar button is clicked, the window is restored. If the window is not maximized, nothing happens. The same behavior occurs with the Span window across all monitors title bar button.

The hot key and title bar buttons work fine for windows launched normally. It only impacts windows launched using "Run as administrator". This is a big deal for me since I launch so many windows using "Run as administrator". This was not an issue in 3.1.7. I am not sure which beta version introduced this problem. My guess is that it has to do with the new window detection.
Apr 22, 2010  • #1
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Kevin F.
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Have you tried running DF as an admin? And why don't you just eliminate the need for running as an admin overall, and just use an admin account?
Apr 22, 2010  • #2
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crdowner
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I closed DisplayFusion and restarted it manually as an admin and it does restore the desired functionality. However, I consider this to be a workaround rather than a solution since I would not be able to let DisplayFusion auto-start with Windows.

To answer your question about "just use an admin account" we try to follow best practices and only use admin accounts when administrator rights are required. This means we log in to our workstations as normal users. When we need to perform an administrative task we either launch the application on our workstations using "Run as administrator" or we remote into a server using our admin accounts. I know several companies that use this practice.
Apr 22, 2010  • #3
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
You shouldn't need to run DisplayFusion as an Administrator, it is working fine for me on my Win7 x64 machine. Can you post the information from the Troubleshooting tab in DisplayFusion? There are a few things that can cause DF to ignore administrator applications:
- DisplayFusion MUST be installed into the "protected" area, like the "Program Files (x86)" folder
- DisplayFusion must be digitally signed and unmodified (pirated versions won't work)

Once you post the info from the Troubleshooting tab I can see what is causing the behaviour to not work. Thanks!
Apr 23, 2010  • #4
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crdowner
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DisplayFusion is installed at the default location and is not pirated. I downloaded it from the forum link.

The troubleshooting tab information is below:

***** Machine **********************************************
Operating System: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0 (6.1.7600.0)
Detected Version: Windows7 / Server2008R2 (Windows7 / Server2008R2)
CPU: x64
Date/Time (UTC): 04/26/2010 15:29:27
Date/Time (Local): 04/26/2010 10:29:27
.NET Framework: 2.0.50727.4927
CurrentCulture: English (United States) (en-US ~ en)
CurrentUICulture: English (United States) (en-US ~ en)
On Battery: No

***** Wallpaper ****************************************
Active Desktop: False
Wallpaper Span: False
Monitor #1 Image: {none}
Monitor #2 Image: {none}
Windows Wallpaper: C:\Users\RDowner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Themes\TranscodedWallpaper.jpg (Exists: True)
Generated Wallpaper Folder: C:\Users\RDowner\AppData\Roaming\DisplayFusion

***** DisplayFusion ************************************
Name: DisplayFusion Pro v3.1.8.107 (Beta 7)
Build Date: Apr 20, 2010 13:05
Pro: True
License Key: b7c459da61bf51bfe42e167e1d534bfb
Command Line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\DisplayFusion.exe"
Current Folder: C:\Windows\system32
Performance Mode: False
Application Hooks: True
System Hooks Pause FullScreen: False
Process Integrity Level: Medium
Font Scaling: 1

***** Themes *******************************************
Visual Styles: True
Visual Styles Detected: True
DWM Composition Detected: True
Filename: C:\Windows\resources\themes\Aero\Aero.msstyles
Colour: NormalColor
Size: NormalSize
File: --
Bitmap File: --

***** Monitor 1 (Primary:True ~ Attached:True ~ Method: Win7)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series
Monitor: Dell 2208WFP(Digital)
Device: \\.\DISPLAY1
Bounds: {X=0,Y=0,Width=1680,Height=1050}
WorkArea: {X=0,Y=0,Width=1680,Height=1010}

***** Monitor 2 (Primary:False ~ Attached:True ~ Method: Win7)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series
Monitor: Dell 2208WFP(Digital)
Device: \\.\DISPLAY2
Bounds: {X=1680,Y=0,Width=1680,Height=1050}
WorkArea: {X=1680,Y=0,Width=1680,Height=1050}

***** Monitors by Bounds *******************************
1, 2
Force Order: None

***** Screens ******************************************
Count: 2
Point Min: {X=0,Y=0}
Point Max: {X=3360,Y=1050}
Total Size: {Width=3360, Height=1050}
ActiveDesktop: False

***** Screen 1 *****************************************
Name: Dell 2208WFP(Digital) @ ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series
Bounds: {X=0,Y=0,Width=1680,Height=1050}
MoveH: 0
MoveV: 0
Scaling: 100.00%

***** Screen 2 *****************************************
Name: Dell 2208WFP(Digital) @ ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series
Bounds: {X=1680,Y=0,Width=1680,Height=1050}
MoveH: 0
MoveV: 0
Scaling: 100.00%

***** FullScreen Applications **************************
None

***** Window Snapping **********************************
Snap to Monitor Edges: True
Snap to Application Window Edges: True
Snap Distance: 20
Ignore Snap with 'Shift': True

***** Window Management ********************************
Maximized Window Dragging: True
Maximized Window Dragging Overlay: True
Middle-Click Window Moving: True

***** Windows Logon Background *************************
Image:
Colour: Color [A=255, R=0, G=0, B=0]
Size Mode: FitBestMaintainClip
Colour Mode: Normal

***** Compatibility ************************************
None

***** Taskbars *****************************************
Enabled: True
Taskbar Mode: ShowRelevant
Middle-Click Behaviour: OpenNewInstance
Button Style: IconsOnly
Opacity: 100
Flash Blink: False
Thumbnail Preview: True
Thumbnail Preview Animations: True
Sizing Bar Size: 0
Button Width Max: 60
Button Width Override: 0
Button Icon Size: 32
Button Gap Size: {Width=2, Height=0}
Disabled Taskbars: None
Colour Tracking Override: None
Button Height: 40
Text Glow Size: 0
Count: 1

***** Taskbar 1 ****************************************
Location: {X=1680,Y=1010,Width=1680,Height=40}
Monitor ID: 2
Position (Setting/Current): Automatic / Bottom
Size: Automatic
Auto-Hide: False
TopMost: True
Buttons (2):
"DisplayFusion Pro ~ Settings" ~ Handles:00010b16:00010b16:00010b16 ~ ImageType:Icon_Big ~ NormalIcon:{Width=32, Height=32} ~ LargeIcon:{Width=32, Height=32} ~ Exception:None ~ WindowPosition:{X=1685,Y=5,Width=807,Height=565}
"Bug or Feature? - Windows Internet Explorer provided by Evergreen Packaging" ~ Handles:00040bb6:00040bb6:00040bb6 ~ ImageType:Icon_Big ~ NormalIcon:{Width=32, Height=32} ~ LargeIcon:{Width=32, Height=32} ~ Exception:None ~ WindowPosition:{X=2196,Y=0,Width=1164,Height=1010}

***** Taskbar Deleted Items (2) ************************
00010b16:00010b16:00010b16
00040bb6:00040bb6:00040bb6

***** Taskbar Items ************************************
"DisplayFusion Pro ~ Settings" (00010b16:00010b16:00010b16 ~ None ~ {X=1685,Y=5,Width=807,Height=565})
"DameWare NT Utilities" (00030aa6:00030aa6:00030aa6 ~ None ~ {X=370,Y=51,Width=1260,Height=737})
"Mail - Sent - IBM Lotus Notes" (00010606:00010606:00010606 ~ None ~ {X=96,Y=0,Width=1680,Height=1010})
"Bug or Feature? - Windows Internet Explorer provided by Evergreen Packaging" (00040bb6:00040bb6:00040bb6 ~ None ~ {X=2196,Y=0,Width=1164,Height=1010})

***** TitleBar Buttons *********************************
Enabled: True
DisplayFusion Caption Button Size: {Width=31, Height=17}
System Caption Button Size: {Width=35, Height=21}
Detected Caption Button Size: {Width=31, Height=17}
Custom Background: Blank

***** TitleBar Button Windows (4) **********************
"Bug or Feature? - Windows Internet Explorer provided by Evergreen Packaging" ~ 0x00040bb6 ~ Window:{X=2196,Y=0,Width=1164,Height=1010} ~ Buttons:{X=3155,Y=-19,Width=99,Height=60} ~ Visible:True ~ Owner Minimized:False ~ Process:x86 ~ InternetExplorer ~ "IEFrame" ~ "C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
"DameWare NT Utilities" ~ 0x00030aa6 ~ Window:{X=370,Y=51,Width=1260,Height=737} ~ Buttons:{X=1425,Y=32,Width=99,Height=60} ~ Visible:True ~ Owner Minimized:False ~ Process:Error - Access is denied ~ None ~ "DNTU_Class" ~ "Unknown"
"DisplayFusion Pro ~ Settings" ~ 0x00010b16 ~ Window:{X=1680,Y=0,Width=817,Height=575} ~ Buttons:{X=2343,Y=-19,Width=99,Height=60} ~ Visible:True ~ Owner Minimized:False ~ Process:x64 ~ None ~ "WindowsForms10.Window.8.app.0.378734a" ~ "C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\DisplayFusion.exe"
"Mail - Sent - IBM Lotus Notes" ~ 0x00010606 ~ Window:{X=-32000,Y=-32000,Width=160,Height=27} ~ Buttons:{X=-31132,Y=-31132,Width=99,Height=60} ~ Visible:True ~ Owner Minimized:False ~ Process:x86 ~ None ~ "SWT_Window0" ~ "C:\Program Files (x86)\IBM\Lotus\Notes\framework\rcp\eclipse\plugins\com.ibm.rcp.base_6.2.1.20090925-1604\win32\x86\notes2.exe"

***** HotKeys ******************************************
Enabled: True
"Move window to next monitor" ~ CTRL;WIN;88 ~ Windows Aero\Next Monitor.png
"Span window across all monitors" ~ CTRL;WIN;192 ~ Windows Aero\Span.png
"Move window to centre of monitor" ~ CTRL;WIN;81 ~
"Move window to centre of monitor and size to 75%" ~ CTRL;WIN;83 ~
"Move window to next monitor and maximize" ~ CTRL;WIN;65 ~
"Move window to next monitor and size proportionally" ~ CTRL;WIN;90 ~
"Move window to previous monitor" ~ CTRL;WIN;87 ~
"Move window to previous monitor and maximize" ~ CTRL;WIN;69 ~
"Move window to previous monitor and size proportionally" ~ CTRL;WIN;68 ~
"Next random wallpaper image (Pro only)" ~ CTRL;WIN;82 ~
"Size and move window to bottom side of monitor" ~ CTRL;WIN;40 ~
"Size and move window to left side of monitor" ~ CTRL;WIN;37 ~
"Size and move window to right side of monitor" ~ CTRL;WIN;39 ~
"Size and move window to top side of monitor" ~ CTRL;WIN;38 ~
"Toggle HotKeys" ~ * ~
"Toggle Multi-Monitor Taskbar (Pro only)" ~ * ~
"Toggle TitleBar Buttons" ~ * ~
"Toggle Window Always on Top" ~ * ~

***** DisplayFusion ************************************
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\DisplayFusion.exe
Name: DisplayFusion
Prod Version: 3.1.8.107
File Version: 3.1.8.107
Size: 893,616 bytes
Date Modified (UTC): Apr 20, 2010 @ 18:05

***** DisplayFusion x86 Hook DLL ***********************
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\DisplayFusionHookx86.dll
Name: DisplayFusion Hook
Prod Version: 2.6.1.0
File Version: 2.6.1.0
Size: 48,816 bytes
Date Modified (UTC): Apr 19, 2010 @ 14:41

***** DisplayFusion x64 Hook DLL ***********************
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\DisplayFusionHookx64.dll
Name: DisplayFusion Hook
Prod Version: 2.6.1.0
File Version: 2.6.1.0
Size: 61,104 bytes
Date Modified (UTC): Apr 19, 2010 @ 14:41

***** DisplayFusion x86 Hook ***************************
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\DisplayFusionHookx86.exe
Name: DisplayFusion Hook x86
Prod Version: 2.0.1.0
File Version: 2.0.1.0
Size: 92,848 bytes
Date Modified (UTC): Apr 19, 2010 @ 14:41

***** BF Client Tools **********************************
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\BFClientTools.dll
Name: BFClientTools
Prod Version: 2010.04.20.02
File Version: 2010.04.20.02
Size: 62,640 bytes
Date Modified (UTC): Apr 20, 2010 @ 16:43

***** DisplayFusion Helper *****************************
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\DisplayFusionHelper.exe
Name: DisplayFusion Helper
Prod Version: 3.1.8.107
File Version: 3.1.8.107
Size: 46,784 bytes
Date Modified (UTC): Apr 20, 2010 @ 18:05

***** Managed Threads **********************************
Count: 4
ID:3 ~ Name:TaskbarManager ~ Age:00:30:52.8377031 ~ Alive:True ~ BG:True ~ State:Background ~ Thread Name:TaskbarManager_197b8667-5aa8-4aec-a341-577794794aee
ID:4 ~ Name:TitleBarManager ~ Age:00:30:52.7907510 ~ Alive:True ~ BG:True ~ State:Background ~ Thread Name:TitleBarManager_b2a8d858-122b-4a85-b8ed-a4bd15da7d93
ID:5 ~ Name:HookManager ~ Age:00:30:52.7907510 ~ Alive:True ~ BG:True ~ State:Background ~ Thread Name:HookManager_3743bf15-908d-417b-a667-e87762151afb
ID:7 ~ Name:HookManagerProcess ~ Age:00:30:51.8840105 ~ Alive:True ~ BG:True ~ State:Background ~ Thread Name:HookManagerProcess_36c57676-9e70-436d-9ee6-f4da41918b2b

***** Processes ****************************************
Cache Items: 8
Apr 26, 2010  • #5
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crdowner
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FYI - I installed beta 8 hoping it might address some of the hot key/title bar issues but there has been no change.
May 15, 2010  • #6
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Can you uninstall DisplayFusion, then manually delete this folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\DisplayFusion\

Next, download Beta 8 and install it. After this, you should be running with a high integrity level, not medium like you are currently:
Process Integrity Level: Medium
May 17, 2010  • #7
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crdowner
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I uninstalled, rebooted, verified that the DisplayFusion folder did not exist, and removed entries from the registry. I then installed beta 8 but the integrity level is still at Medium and the hotkey and titlebar behavior is unchanged.
May 17, 2010  • #8
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crdowner
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I uninstalled a second time, made sure the folder did not exist, delete registry entries, etc. I then logged on to my computer as an admin and installed DF. I had previously been logged on as a standard account and supplied admin credentials when prompted. It made no difference though. The process integrity level still shows medium.
May 17, 2010  • #9
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I've never heard of this issue before, usually deleting and starting fresh corrects the issue. Are you on a corporate network, with the possibility of a group policy affecting some security settings on your machine?
May 21, 2010  • #10
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crdowner
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I am on a corporate network but I am one of the domain admins and I am in charge of group policies. I don't think any of our GPO's would interfere but I cannot completely run that possibility out. I am using Windows 7 64-bit which has some interesting security quirks.
May 21, 2010  • #11
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crdowner
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I uninstalled beta 8 and installed beta 9 and the process integrity level is now high and I can use the hotkey and the title bar buttons to move windows launched with a different account.

Thanks Jon!
May 24, 2010  • #12
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crdowner
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I spoke too soon. I decided to rebuild my computer from scratch hoping to solve an unrelated issue. I have installed and uninstalled DisplayFusion numerous times and the process integrity level has either been "Unknown" or "Medium". I installed while logged in as a local admin. I installed while logged in as a general user and providing admin credentials when prompted. No combination has given me the desired result.

What is the correct way to install DF? Should I install it while logged in with be general account or my admin account? Should I right-click the installation executable and select run as administrator? Should I double-click the installation executable and provide admin credentials when prompted?
May 26, 2010  • #13
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crdowner
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I have a little more info. I downloaded beta 10 and installed it following these steps.

1. Added my user name as a local admin
2. Logged on as my local admin account - which is the one I normally use
3. Installed DF

The process integrity level was high until I removed my account from the local administrators group. Now the process integrity level is back to medium. If I add my account to the local admins group the process integrity level goes back to high but as soon as I remove my account it reverts to medium.

I need DF to run at high for non-admin user accounts.
May 28, 2010  • #14
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is that I found the problem, the bad news is that I can't fix it. Windows Vista (and Windows 7) have a new security system that prevents a lower-privilege user's applications from interacting with elevated applications. The only way around this is to run DisplayFusion as an elevated process, but that will generate a UAC prompt each time DisplayFusion is started. I'm sorry that I don't have a better solution, but that is the way Windows security works. :(
May 31, 2010  • #15
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