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Monitors displaced and in duplicate mode, after waking up from sleep

David369
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Hello,

I've recently been having an increasing number of cases, where upon waking up from sleep, all my screens would become duplicated, where e.g., screen 6 would switch places with screen 3, and dragging the mouse to the far right, would make it appear on top (screen 6)

My setup is:
• 4 ASUS MB169B+ 15.6" screens
• Connected to my laptop, through 2 USB hubs (TP-Link UH700)
• Where I basically have 2 rows, with 3 screens. With the laptop in the first row, center

I've looked around, and tried the fix in:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/227260/discussions/0/1636410430551299732/

But unfortunately, to no avail 😔



Edit: it seems that the image above is not always loading properly so here's the link, just in case:
https://i.imgur.com/1cZi3jP.jpg

I use DisplayFusion Pro 9.1, and besides this (for which I'm sure Windows or some hardware bs is at fault for anyway) this program, truly is a godsend of sorts

Kind regards,
David
Aug 20, 2020 (modified Aug 22, 2020)  • #1
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hi David,

Unfortunately, Display Fusion doesn't have control over this. You can however, create a monitor profile that you can manually enable when you turn your computer on.

I'll attach a guide to get you started: https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/working-with-displayfusion-monitor-profiles/?ID=5f41fdbd-bb4f-4052-8de2-a34e47468ec0#first

Hope this helps!
Aug 21, 2020  • #2
David369
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Hi David,

Unfortunately, Display Fusion doesn't have control over this. You can however, create a monitor profile that you can manually enable when you turn your computer on.

I'll attach a guide to get you started: https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/working-with-displayfusion-monitor-profiles/?ID=5f41fdbd-bb4f-4052-8de2-a34e47468ec0#first

Hope this helps!


Hello,

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I suspected as much... wish there was some way to circumvent this though. I already have a monitor profile, being triggered on start:
https://i.imgur.com/1cZi3jP.jpg

But this unfortunately, only helps during start up...
Aug 21, 2020 (modified Aug 21, 2020)  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
You could create a rule on the Settings > Triggers tab that uses the "Computer wakes from sleep" trigger event, and then do Add > Run Function > Load Monitor Profile to have it loaded automatically. Note that it would try to load that profile any time it wakes from sleep though, even if the dock isn't connected.
Aug 22, 2020  • #4
David369
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You could create a rule on the Settings > Triggers tab that uses the "Computer wakes from sleep" trigger event, and then do Add > Run Function > Load Monitor Profile to have it loaded automatically. Note that it would try to load that profile any time it wakes from sleep though, even if the dock isn't connected.


Thanks for the reply Keith! I'll do that and report back if this has helped. Might take a while to fully test it though...

Which event should I pick in here by the way?
https://i.imgur.com/1uJjm8c.jpg
Aug 22, 2020 (modified Aug 25, 2020)  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
The "System Wakes from Sleep" trigger event should do the job
Aug 24, 2020  • #6
David369
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The "System Wakes from Sleep" trigger event should do the job


Sorry, my bad. Will report back how it goes later on
Aug 25, 2020  • #7
David369
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The "System Wakes from Sleep" trigger event should do the job


Reporting back. Since implementing this fix, the issue hasn't reappeared!

However, a much smaller issue I'm having right now after sleep, is the displacement of a pinned taskbar icon (the green iris-esque icon), which I often use with a macro.

No other pinned taskbar icons (or non-pinned for that matter), seem to get displaced...

Before:

After sleep:
Sep 9, 2020 (modified Sep 9, 2020)  • #8
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
If you pin that button as a shortcut on the taskbar, does that stop it from moving on sleep/resume?
Sep 10, 2020  • #9
David369
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If you pin that button as a shortcut on the taskbar, does that stop it from moving on sleep/resume?


Hm, not sure.

I have however solved this by moving the icon to the right place, after a restart, where it since has stayed, after several wakeups. I guess as long as some problematic program is shut down, the placement of the taskbar icon, does indeed save accordingly...
Sep 11, 2020 (modified Sep 12, 2020)  • #10
David369
16 discussion posts
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Quote:
The "System Wakes from Sleep" trigger event should do the job


Reporting back. Since implementing this fix, the issue hasn't reappeared!

However, a much smaller issue I'm having right now after sleep, is the displacement of a pinned taskbar icon (the green iris-esque icon), which I often use with a macro.

No other pinned taskbar icons (or non-pinned for that matter), seem to get displaced...

Before:

After sleep:


Speak of the devil, the duplicate issue did actually occur again today, after all this time... 😔

EDIT:
I've recently changed my monitor profile, and the aforementioned trigger got reset, so I'm gonna wait and see, and then finally report back again... pardon my lack of consideration
Sep 12, 2020 (modified Sep 14, 2020)  • #11
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No worries, keep me posted
Sep 14, 2020  • #12
David369
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No worries, keep me posted


Hello,

So it ended up happening again today, unfortunately. Seemingly with no user error present this time (hopefully anyway)…

It's almost as though the monitors sometimes, need a bit more time to wake up from sleep. Which they do eventually of course, but by that time, it's as though something malfunctions/crashes and basically the following pattern emerges:

• PC wakes up from sleep through a user trigger ➔
• Monitors take a bit longer than usual to 'wake up' ➔
• Something goes wrong, and the monitors duplicate ➔
• When one restarts DisplayFusion, the taskbars becomes scrambled, or I guess one can say the monitors themselves do...

It would be nice if one could somehow force them to recalibrate to their proper position again, or prevent this outright, somehow. But for now, only a restart seems to 'help'…

Now I did turn off some settings, as displayed on the image below, because I didn't really find them to be related to this issue, per se. Perhaps I'm wrong? I always only manually put the computer to sleep and wake it up; as in, there is no setting that makes the PC go to sleep after X amount of time



Kind regards,
David
Sep 23, 2020 (modified Sep 23, 2020)  • #13
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
If you add a "Wait" action before the "Load Monitor Profile" action in the rule that's set to run when the computer wakes from sleep, does that help at all? You can try setting it to 10000 ms or something like that to start.
Sep 29, 2020  • #14
David369
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If you add a "Wait" action before the "Load Monitor Profile" action in the rule that's set to run when the computer wakes from sleep, does that help at all? You can try setting it to 10000 ms or something like that to start.


Added the wait action, gonna report back on how that works out for me... might of course take a while, since this does happen like maybe once every 2 weeks, or something of the sort... thanks for the tip by the way!
Oct 5, 2020  • #15
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No worries, sounds good!
Oct 5, 2020  • #16
David369
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No worries, sounds good!


So things have been going pretty well so far, I have however had an issue today and at an earlier point, where some of the monitors (about 2), wouldn't wake up after sleep. This must seemingly be an issue with the USBs, not reacting/connecting/doing something they should in time, I would assume...
Oct 26, 2020 (modified Oct 26, 2020)  • #17
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear it's mostly ok! I've seen some USB adapters (even on systems without DisplayFusion) not wake properly after sleep for sure. Usually unplugging/re-plugging them sorts it out.
Oct 26, 2020  • #18
David369
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Glad to hear it's mostly ok! I've seen some USB adapters (even on systems without DisplayFusion) not wake properly after sleep for sure. Usually unplugging/re-plugging them sorts it out.


Indeed, I usually just restart at that point, to not accidentally knock the monitors down, as I've got them on books and other, questionable things...
Oct 26, 2020  • #19
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah, probably a wise choice
Oct 28, 2020  • #20
David369
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Ah, probably a wise choice


Yesterday two of my screens went black, while I was away for a bit (the PC didn't go to sleep), so yeah, I guess it is indeed something, with the USB connection or similar.

I put it to sleep and re-awoke it, which resumed the two screens, but the taskbars did get scrambled, of course...

Perhaps sometime in the distant future, it'll be possible to re-arrange them in place somehow, through DisplayFusion...
Oct 29, 2020 (modified Nov 3, 2020)  • #21
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Which buttons got scrambled again? Was it buttons for running programs, or pinned shortcuts?
Nov 6, 2020  • #22
David369
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Which buttons got scrambled again? Was it buttons for running programs, or pinned shortcuts?


Sorry for not making this a bit more clearer... basically the 'screens':

• When for example everything is fine, I've got a distinct taskbar on/for each monitor, and the mouse moves seamlessly between the monitors.

• When things go wrong and e.g., a monitor doesn't wake up from sleep. It doesn't matter if I try put the PC to sleep and then wake it up again or restart DisplayFusion, after logging in. The only thing that helps at this point, is a restart.
To elaborate this, in such a scenario, the mouse no longer moves seamlessly, e.g. I move it to the right and it ends at the top of some monitor, a taskbar is swapped with another somewhere... the program I use for automatic window arrangement moves windows (programs basically) to wrong places; and it's 'one of those mornings again, I say to myself, before getting Ketracel-white (coffeé)
Nov 6, 2020  • #23
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah gotcha, unfortunately there probably isn't much we can do from our end if the USB displays aren't properly waking from sleep
Nov 9, 2020  • #24
David369
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Ah gotcha, unfortunately there probably isn't much we can do from our end if the USB displays aren't properly waking from sleep


I mean they do wake up, it's just that sometimes it happens somewhat later. That's when things start going polar... I think I'll try experimenting more with the 'Wait' function and report back if that has or hasn't helped, in the end 🦝
Nov 9, 2020 (modified Nov 9, 2020)  • #25
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sounds good, thanks David!
Nov 10, 2020  • #26
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