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MaximKorobov
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If you open RealVNC viewer window on main desktop, make it full-screen, open Firefox on second display with DF taskbar, it will be impossible to make firefox window active until you restore RealVNC window from full-screen (KEY: or do something to show windows main taskbar).

Note that full-screen RealVNC viewer window is really full-screen, it hides main taskbar.
Oct 8, 2010  • #1
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MaximKorobov
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Note that without DF there is no issue.
Oct 8, 2010  • #2
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
What version of the VNC viewer are you using, and what version of Windows? I am using Windows 7 x64 with VNC viewer version 4.5.4 and it works perfectly for me. :)
Oct 8, 2010  • #3
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MaximKorobov
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Windows XP SP3 Eng, RealVNC 4.5.4.
Oct 8, 2010  • #4
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sfwrtr
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Data point: Cannot repro using Windows 7 x64, Firefox 3.6 (up to date), and Real VNC 4.1.3 (current free version). VNC and Firefox work fine full screen on either primary or secondary monitor with DF current Beta 2.
Oct 20, 2010  • #5
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It sounds like the real problem here is that somehow DisplayFusion is preventing the Windows taskbar from appearing over the RealVNC window, correct? I have been testing this extensively, and it works perfectly for me on all of my test machines. Can you try disabling DisplayFusion features one at a time and see which one is affecting RealVNC? Perhaps disable everything, then enable one at a time until it breaks? That's what I usually do. :)
Nov 2, 2010  • #6
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MaximKorobov
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The feature is... DF taskbar. If I disable it, than
Quote:
open RealVNC viewer window on main desktop, make it full-screen, open Firefox on second display with DF taskbar,

it works :)
Nov 3, 2010  • #7
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
The next time this issue happens, can you send me the info from the Troubleshooting tab while the issue is on the screen? Thanks! :)
Nov 9, 2010  • #8
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MaximKorobov
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I send it to you via forum's PM.
Nov 9, 2010  • #9
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Can you try disabling the "Show taskbar in front of fullscreen applications when they lose focus" setting?
Nov 14, 2010  • #10
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MaximKorobov
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Hey, I opened up settings a found that this checkbox was disabled. Use latest beta 7.
Nov 20, 2010  • #11
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I have just released Beta 10 with a few taskbar improvements, can you please give it a try and see if the behaviour is affected:
http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!
Dec 11, 2010  • #12
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MaximKorobov
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Ok. Beta 10 (thanks for update system and notifications!) :)

Full screen realvnc window is on left/main monitor, Full screen notepad++ and firefox windows on right/secondary/with DF taskbar monitor.
When I switch from realvnc to notepad++, windows own taskbar appear (strange) and notepad++ window was activated.
When I switch from realvnc to firefox, windows own taskbar does notappear and firefox window could not be activated.

Tried to rearrange setup: notepad++ and firefox on left, realvnc on right - no issue, it's all right.

Video on demand :)))
Dec 11, 2010  • #13
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MaximKorobov
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Same when VMWare Workstation 7 window is full-screen on main display, instead of RealVNC window.
Dec 18, 2010  • #14
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
This may not help, but can you try the new Beta 12:
http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

It has a new way of loading the hooks, so if that's the cause it should help. If not, we'll look at other things.
Jan 20, 2011  • #15
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MaximKorobov
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I'm sorry, but the issue is still here.
Next few days I'll make a short movie :)
Jan 26, 2011  • #16
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MaximKorobov
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Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhdkMUcpyfw
I'd test it with brand-new beta 14!
For the apps i'd choose again realvnc and firefox, but the same issue comes with at least vmware workstation window, full-screened on main monitor.
You will see that I need 3-4 clicks on firefox caption to activate it (main windows taskbar will be showed too).
Jan 29, 2011  • #17
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Excellent video, thanks. I have a few questions:
- Does this issue happen only when DF is running?
- Does the issue happen if you disable the "global application hooks" in DF?
- Which version of Windows are you using?
Feb 28, 2011  • #18
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MaximKorobov
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- Does this issue happen only when DF is running?
Yes. With DF taskbar option enabled.
When DF taskbar disabled or DF closed and when I click over Firefox, windows taskbar shows "right now" and Firefox window become focused;

- Does the issue happen if you disable the "global application hooks" in DF?
I'm sorry I can't to find that option. Is it "General: Application hook" in advance settings? Now it's value is disabled and I didn't change it before;

- Which version of Windows are you using?
Windows XP SP3 English with all updates available. More tech spec. you can see in DF debug log, which I PM'd you some times ago.
Feb 28, 2011  • #19
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Can you try to set the value of the "General: Application Hooks Disabled" option in the Advanced Settings and let me know if the issue still occurs?

Thanks!
Apr 21, 2011  • #20
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MaximKorobov
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The effect is fuzzy. Some times it need fast double click to activate window, sometimes it need click on windows's caption, but not always.
Strange that with App hook = 0 the result is same.

Note that, anyway, if I turned off DF's tasks bar, windows, which are on second display, activated via 1 click (and Windows shows own task bar).
Apr 23, 2011  • #21
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sorry, in my previous post I meant to ask you to set the App Hooks Disabled to 1. Can you try it with that setting enabled? Make sure to restart DisplayFusion after setting it to 1.

Thanks!
Apr 25, 2011  • #22
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MaximKorobov
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Yes. I understand you right.
DF was updated to latest 3.31 beta 10, then i'd try both with that setting = 0 and setting = 1. Issue is still here.

Video on demand :)
Apr 25, 2011  • #23
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hi Maxim,

I've just tested out this issue using the following:

- Windows XP SP3
- DisplayFusion 3.3.1 Beta 16
- Firefox 4
- RealVNC 4.5.4

It seems to work for me without any issues. Could you try testing with DisplayFusion 3.3.1 Beta 16 and Firefox 4?

Thanks!
May 10, 2011  • #24
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MaximKorobov
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I use the same software, except RealVNC - 4.6.0 installed.

Please look at new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPsWOvAg4bQ

Notes:
1. When full-screen RealVNC is on left-side main monitor, sometimes DF taskbar shows immediately, sometimes require 2-3 click. Better that previous versions, but not perfect;
2. When full-screen RealVNC is on right-side secondary monitor (video from 3:25) - no any issues, everything is just fine.

BTW, global hook was on (value 1) in this test.
May 10, 2011 (modified Jul 17, 2011)  • #25
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Good to know that it's at least a little better. Could you send me the info from the Troublshooting tab in DisplayFusion while you have RealVNC fullscreen on the left and Firefox maximized on the right? I'm going to try to replicate as many of the settings you have configured as I can to see if I can reproduce the issue here.

Thanks!
May 10, 2011  • #26
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MaximKorobov
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Sure.
I PM'ed it to you.
May 10, 2011  • #27
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! I noticed that you have the "Pause Global Hooks on Fullscreen" Advanced Setting set to 1. Do you still have the same issue if you set it to 0 and restart DisplayFusion?
May 13, 2011  • #28
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MaximKorobov
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OK, I'd set it to zero, restart DF, firefox and vnc connection.
Issue is still here and even worse: subjectively, it need more clicks to activate firefox on right monitor - 3-5, or fast double click.
Sometimes Windows taskbar shows, sometimes it's only flicker.
May 15, 2011  • #29
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Quick question for you... if you disable the Multi-Monitor Taskbars feature in DisplayFusion, does that help at all?
Jun 2, 2011  • #30
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MaximKorobov
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Yep.
Without DF own task bar Firefox activates via one click when previously RealVNC was focused and full-screen on main display.
Jun 2, 2011  • #31
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, good to know! Can you disabled the "Show taskbar in front of fullscreen applications when they lose focus" option on the Taskbars tab in DisplayFusion, then re-enable the Multi-Monitor Taskbars feature and if the issue still occurs?
Jun 2, 2011  • #32
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MaximKorobov
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I did as you said.
I'm sorry, but it seems that the problem is still there.

OK, guys. We all worked hard.. Let's close this issue with my other questions (Adobe Readex X and click the middle mouse button, flickering task bar when watching flash- video).
Jun 24, 2011  • #33
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for the update! The next beta version (3.4.0 Beta 4) will have some significant improvements to the hooks, which has fixed weird issues with many programs. As soon as it gets released, I'll post a follow-up and get you to try it out.
Jun 24, 2011  • #34
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
3.4.0 Beta 4 is out now with some huge hooking improvements. Could you give it a try to see if it helps at all?
http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/
Jun 28, 2011 (modified Jul 10, 2011)  • #35
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MaximKorobov
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I use beta 6 now.
No notable changes was found in my question.

Please close this issue. I had no of luck, but it's ok.
Jul 11, 2011  • #36
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, thanks for the update Maxim! Hopefully one of our future updates/fixes for another problem will end up resolving yours as well :)
Jul 11, 2011  • #37
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Just wanted to follow up and let you know that we may have actually fixed this issue in DisplayFusion 4.0 Beta 13. If you're still having this issue, could you give Beta 13 a try and let me know how it goes?

Thanks!
Apr 19, 2012  • #38
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MaximKorobov
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Funny that you implement always showing header of RealVNC's window. Yes, such solution works.
Only issue is middle-button click. Instead of moving to the next screen, RealVNC window flicker and stays on it's place.
Apr 23, 2012  • #39
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Awesome, glad to hear it's working now! Did the VNC window header only start showing with Beta 15? I'll try testing this and the middle click issue out as well.

Thanks!
Apr 24, 2012  • #40
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Seems to work ok for me with the latest version of RealVNC Personal Edition. The connection bar hides when the mouse isn't over it, and middle-clicking the connection bar moves it to the next screen. Do you have and Compatibility rules setup for RealVNC?
Apr 24, 2012  • #41
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MaximKorobov
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Nope. Since beta 15 middle-button click action stop working at all. I tried to recheck it, restart DF.

Guys! I'm sorry for my next words.
It's a bit boring to report or test issues after minor updates. Something working here, but stop working there. If feature couldn't work correct in any ways, maybe it is a reason to not publish it? All or nothing, though.

2,5 years ago I bought DF instead of UltraMon and other alternative cause it updates often. So, written and maintained by someones, who love their work. Since now, it doesn't matter for me only just as issues reported by me.

Thanks. Previous experience was good enough.
Apr 25, 2012 (modified Apr 25, 2012)  • #42
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MaximKorobov
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Please unsubscribe me from this topic and "Firefox 8 and middle-button click" (http://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/firefox-8-and-middle-button-click/?ID=26b3c235-85c8-41cf-8167-a97ee594258a) too.
Apr 25, 2012  • #43
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sorry to hear that you've been having issues Maxim :(

I'll lock this topic and the other one as well so that you won't get updates on them any more. Regarding the middle-click issue, it should still be working in B15, but you may need to restart your computer. Sometimes the hooks don't unload/reload properly during upgrades.

If you have any other issues you'd like us to look into in the future, just post a new topic or send an email our way.

Thanks!
Apr 25, 2012  • #44
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