Hi,

I have been using both DisplayFusion and Wallpaper Engine for years now. I formatted my computer a few days and installed Windows 11 for the first time. Before, I was using Windows 10. DisplayFusion and Wallpaper Engine were running at the same time with no issues. I currently use 3 monitors.

However, since I installed Windows 11, I now get this weird screen flicker once every like 30 seconds to a minute. This happens on all screens that are showing my desktop. It seems to be the wallpaper itself glitching out because if I have, for example, chrome open on all monitors, this won't happen or at least isn't visible.

If I close DisplayFusion and let Wallpaper Engine run, it stops happening. However, if I close Wallpaper Engine and leave DisplayFusion running, it also stops. Everytime both are running, I cannot get this to stop. I've messed around the settings with both programs and I cannot get it to stop. I have to close one of the programs when using my PC as the flicker is very annoying and I cannot focus getting screen flashes every few seconds.

It seems that both programs are interacting somehow and causing a wallpaper glitch. DisplayFusion isn't set to control my wallpaper or screen saver. Any suggestions on why this might be happening? It was working fine on Windows 10, I've using both programs for years now.

Thanks.

I will also add that at first, I was using v11. I then updated to the latest beta version in hopes that it would be fixed, but I'm still having this issue on b4.

Regards.

After some more tweaking I realized that this stops happening if I turn off Multi-Monitor Taskbars in DisplayFusion, which concludes this is related to this function.

However, this is not a good solution as this is the main reason I use DF, to have a taskbar on each monitor with shortcuts and tray icons. Perhaps there is something in the advanced settings I can change to fix this or a simple hotfix can be released, as this wasn't happening in W10 with taskbars enabled?

Thank you for the answer. I have attached the logs. By noting down when the issue occured, I realized it happens once every 60 seconds exactly.

Right before exporting the logs, I saw it happen at: 15:06:23, 15:07:23, 15:08:23, 15:09:23 (24 hour clock)

Please let me know what you think.

Hi. It seems that it does. Wallpaper no longer flickers when tray icons are disabled on DisplayFusion taskbars.

However, this defeats the purpose of using DisplayFusion taskbars for me as this is one of the main features I use it for as it is very convient to have tray icons on all monitors. Is there anything else that can be done?

Alright. Please provide an update if you find a workaround in the meantime as it's not worth using DisplayFusion taskbars without tray icons in Windows 11 since you can use the Windows ones.

Is there any updates? Any chance the latest update fixed this?

Any updates on this? A new beta just came out.

Will I have to wait for a whole year to get this fixed?

So many updates recently. Was a fix implemented for this?

I can confirm that this issue is still happening after like 100 betas. Please fix this.

I'm sort of curious as I've never seen this happen. What kind of wallpaper are you using? Scene, video, web? Wallpaper Engine has lots of options to consider playing with as well. It does sound like it is Wallpaper Engine's rendering that is the issue, even if DisplayFusion is somehow triggering it.

Happens with any wallpaper engine wallpaper. I've spent hours changing settings on both displayfusion and wallpaper engine. Nothing works. I just accepted defeat and decided to wait for a fix and disable dp taskbars. It's frustrating because this only started happening when I upgraded to Windows 11. On 10 it wasn't a problem. It's been almost a year and I've learned to live without the displayfusion taskbars, but it was very useful and one of the reasons I bought the program in the first place.

They seem to know why this is happening based on Owen's previous comments, so if there was an option I could change that would fix it I believe he would have told me by now. I am also curious on why this is happening since windows 10 and 11 are not that much different but only they can go into detail about that.

I mean, I say this because I've been on Windows 11, had DisplayFusion and had Wallpaper Engine since Dec 2021. I've never seen what you're talking about.

All Owen said is that they have a similar issue that they can reproduce. They have not said they have reproduced this issue with Wallpaper Engine. Considering that I do not have your issue, even if they fixed the issue they know about, that does not mean it will fix your issue. It also means that your issue is not necessarily wide-spread. You might have another thing that is playing a hand in these interactions and causing an issue you can observe. I may not have that 3rd piece of the puzzle, so I've never seen it.

Any updates? This has been broken for over an year now. Is this literally unfixable or is this just not a priority for you?

To this day, I still have never recreated this problem. I don't think it's as wide spread as it seems to you. BFS can make speculative/blind fixes based off of similar sounding problems, but my assumption is that they did not recreate the exact issue here. They have fixed the tray icon flickering issue that was mentioned, though. (I had it)

It is extremely easy to replicate. It happens on all machines I have tried this on. Just enable displayfusion taskbars on all monitors and use any wallpaper engine wallpaper. Your desktop will now flash once every minute, unless you maximize a window on all monitors or you only have 1 monitor with something open on it they will all flash. I believe Owen was able to replicate it based on his previous answers here. It just seems that this is not important enough for them to care, which is hard to understand. I'm just going to assume not everyone uses these 2 programs at the same time like me so not many have reported this.

Let me share a personal story with you.

I have my PC running for days or weeks without a reboot. After some amount of time, WinForms painting would start to get corrupted. Updated text would show up in the wrong location. A highlighted button would show its new form in the wrong location. It happened to me for years, maybe a decade.

I was convinced that Microsoft was just unaware of this weird bug since most people sleep, reboot or logoff from their computers. Scouring the internet, I could only find bare mentions of anyone describing something similar. All of the PCs that I had would show this behavior eventually and rebooting always fixed it. I figured there was no way I could make Microsoft care about this bug.

After a very long time, I randomly decided to stop using this window management system utility. And the problem went away. It should have had nothing to do with my problem, but it apparently did. I was certain that other people would see my problem if they ran their PCs for long enough, but the problem was this esoteric utility that I used on every computer I had.

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I am telling you that I've used Display Fusion and Wallpaper Engine for years and have never seen your "extremely easy to replicate" issue. Please consider that it's not as easy to replicate as you think it is because of differences that you might not consider important. -- Owen has said that your issue sounded similar to other issues and that your logs showed that your symptom probably happened after a tray icon update every minute. That combined with the fact that turning off multi-tray icons helped you gave him more evidence, so he was willing to correlate the issues. I don't see anything about BFS recreating your exact issue, though.