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Titlebar Buttons occupy more space in Windows 10

pc7
5 discussion posts
After upgrading Windows from 8.1 to 10, the same set of Titlebar Buttons is now occupying a lot more lateral space than before, as shown in the two attached captures. Furthermore, the "Separator Size" value set in Advanced Settings (in these examples, set at 6) apparently has no effect in Windows 10.

I've tried using Winaero Tweaker to change the Minimize/Restore icon size, but that has no effect on the DF buttons' size or separation. I've also tried copying a theme from Windows 8.1 to 10 and using it. Still, no change.

I've read in another discussion requesting the ability to set the DF button size. If implemented, that would have solved this problem. I am still curious as to why it is behaving differently in Windows 10, however, and if there is a quick solution without the new capability.

Ultimately the goal is to be able to pack as many buttons as possible into the titlebar.

Regardless, wonderful program!
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Sep 2, 2015  • #1
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Can you give the new DisplayFusion 7.3 Beta 4 a try and let me know if it helps you at all?

http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!
Sep 3, 2015  • #2
pc7
5 discussion posts
Thanks, Jon.

I have tried the Beta 4, and it is the same.

I am curious, did no one else experienced what I have seen?
Sep 4, 2015  • #3
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I don't think anyone else uses that many buttons. In the upcoming Beta 5 there is an advanced setting to scale the Titlebar Buttons, you'll definitely find that useful.
Sep 4, 2015  • #4
pc7
5 discussion posts
That's great news with Beta 5! Looking forward to it. I hope the button scaling also means that button spacings are also changable.

I still find it weird that Windows 10 makes a difference in the spacing. I'd tried modifying the Windows themes but did not get very far. But if DF can scale the buttons and spacing, then all is fine.

Regarding the number of buttons on my titlebars, actually I'd like to add even more! But that's another story. I'll take it up in another discussion with other suggestions that would make this great software even better. Thanks.
Sep 5, 2015  • #5
Jochen Luerken
1 discussion post
I have the same in DF 7.3 final version and its very annoying.
Sep 19, 2015  • #6
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sorry, the setting we added in 7.3 only scales the entire button and doesn't let you manually adjust the spacing between the buttons. I've put that as a separate request on our list and will let you know if/when we're able to implement it

Thanks!
Sep 21, 2015  • #7
Ed Deinert1
1 discussion post
I just updated to 10 and am experiencing the same problem. I would appreciate the ability to reduce the gaps between the buttons.
Oct 13, 2015  • #8
NetMage
255 discussion posts
On my system I am seeing huge gaps between the titlebar buttons on Win10, about the same size as the buttons themselves.
Oct 19, 2015  • #9
Matthew Shapiro
29 discussion posts
What is the status of this issue? I have just upgraded to Windows 10 and the button spacing when using 6 custom buttons is sufficient to cause UI issues for our use-case. It's seriously disrupting our work flow right now.
May 4, 2016  • #10
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It's still open on our list, but I can't offer an ETA, sorry
May 6, 2016  • #11
Matthew Shapiro
29 discussion posts
That's ok, I'm going to be rolling us back to Windows 8.1 -- Windows 10 isn't polished enough for business use yet.. too many loose threads to be dealt with. I personally don't mind most of them, but they give our users too much to complain about. I'll keep an eye on this thread, when this is sorted we'll revisit the issue.
May 6, 2016  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sounds good, thanks Matthew!
May 6, 2016  • #13
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hi all! Last Monday we released a new DisplayFusion beta version (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/) and there's now an Advanced Setting to adjust the width of the TitleBar Buttons. In Settings > Advanced Settings, you'll want to use the "Button Size Override: Width" option. I've found that setting it to somewhere between 25 and 30 is a pretty good value if you want them to be narrower than the defaults.

Thanks!
Jun 9, 2016  • #14
Woke
1 discussion post
I was just wondering if anyone found a way to reduce the horizontal size of the min/max/exit titlebar buttons in Win10. I am just moving to Win10 and I find the size of the min/max/exit buttons way too large for a program I use.
Feb 11, 2020  • #15
NetMage
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May 22, 2020  • #16
Holger Drechsler1
12 discussion posts
In my Windows build 1909(Build 18363.1256) changing of the entries according to the mentioned link above also changes the size of the icons in the task bar, the button size in the start menu (I use the good "Classic start menu" and even the size of the buttons for the keys in the regitry editor. The best would be if DisplayFusion could reolace the Windows buttons.
Feb 11, 2021  • #17
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