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Ungroup Similar Taskbar Items in Windows 11?

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Uriah
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I just reverted back to Windows 10 when I realized there was no ungroup setting in Windows 11 for the taskbar. I don't recall having that issue when running the Windows 11 Preview on Hyper-V. I was able to get the taskbar itself to work really nicely with DF on the other monitors and managed to make it match stylistically without much difficulty (just a few tweaks to the height and such), but couldn't find any way to ungroup similar taskbar items. Am I missing something? It was virtually impossible to effectively manage 4 or 5 instances of VSCode where I had to rely on the workspace names to tell them apart. I'm baffled at how Microsoft could do such a thing and not get an absolute hell firestorm of negativity from professional users beforehand. I don't recall hearing anyone mention this on the major YouTube tech channels.
Oct 7, 2021 (modified Oct 7, 2021)  • #1
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hi Uriah,

If you right click an empty spot on a DisplayFusion taskbar, you can head to Multi-Monitor Taskbar > Group Buttons > Disabled.

Thanks!
Oct 8, 2021  • #2
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Uriah
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Hi Uriah,
If you right click an empty spot on a DisplayFusion taskbar, you can head to Multi-Monitor Taskbar > Group Buttons > Disabled.
Thanks!

But this only works on the secondary taskbars. How do I re-enable the labels for the primary taskbar?
Oct 23, 2021  • #3
Alan Wade's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
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Hi Uriah,
If you right click an empty spot on a DisplayFusion taskbar, you can head to Multi-Monitor Taskbar > Group Buttons > Disabled.
Thanks!

But this only works on the secondary taskbars. How do I re-enable the labels for the primary taskbar?

Microsoft has, for now, disabled that option. You can get labels back with a third party software called StartAllBack
Link: https://www.startallback.com/
Oct 23, 2021  • #4
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Uriah
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Hi Uriah,
If you right click an empty spot on a DisplayFusion taskbar, you can head to Multi-Monitor Taskbar > Group Buttons > Disabled.
Thanks!

But this only works on the secondary taskbars. How do I re-enable the labels for the primary taskbar?

Microsoft has, for now, disabled that option. You can get labels back with a third party software called StartAllBack
Link: https://www.startallback.com/

Bummer. I installed StartAllBack and it works (I went ahead and purchased a license for it as well since I hate being a leech), but it has some conflicts with duplicate sound and network icons showing up in the secondary taskbars managed by DisplayFusion (the secondary monitors show two network and two sound icons when running StartAllBack alongside DisplayFusion taskbars).
Are there any plans for DisplayFusion to have a pseudo-taskbar for the primary monitor like you're currently doing for the secondary ones? I hate having to run multiple utilities just to restore functionality that has existed in Windows for over 25 years...
I suspect Microsoft is going to continue dumbing the taskbar down as time progresses because they're too phucking stupid to realize that Windows is no longer the operating system used by grandma and grandpa. They now have mobile devices that do everything they need, and Microsoft already gave up on that crowd with the death of Windows Phone and Windows RT. Windows should be targeting power users, gamers, and professionals. If we wanted a desktop that looked like MacOS or ChromeOS, we'd be running MacOS or ChromeOS. I gotta have my taskbar labels because running 5 or 6 instances of VSCode at the same time on my primary monitor is a window management nightmare, because I have to hunt and peck everytime I press Win+Tab or Alt+Tab. It's mind boggling that Microsoft is this stupid. :x
Oct 23, 2021  • #5
Alan Wade's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
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Hi Uriah,
If you right click an empty spot on a DisplayFusion taskbar, you can head to Multi-Monitor Taskbar > Group Buttons > Disabled.
Thanks!

But this only works on the secondary taskbars. How do I re-enable the labels for the primary taskbar?

Microsoft has, for now, disabled that option. You can get labels back with a third party software called StartAllBack
Link: https://www.startallback.com/

Bummer. I installed StartAllBack and it works (I went ahead and purchased a license for it as well since I hate being a leech), but it has some conflicts with duplicate sound and network icons showing up in the secondary taskbars managed by DisplayFusion (the secondary monitors show two network and two sound icons when running StartAllBack alongside DisplayFusion taskbars).
Are there any plans for DisplayFusion to have a pseudo-taskbar for the primary monitor like you're currently doing for the secondary ones? I hate having to run multiple utilities just to restore functionality that has existed in Windows for over 25 years...
I suspect Microsoft is going to continue dumbing the taskbar down as time progresses because they're too phucking stupid to realize that Windows is no longer the operating system used by grandma and grandpa. They now have mobile devices that do everything they need, and Microsoft already gave up on that crowd with the death of Windows Phone and Windows RT. Windows should be targeting power users, gamers, and professionals. If we wanted a desktop that looked like MacOS or ChromeOS, we'd be running MacOS or ChromeOS. I gotta have my taskbar labels because running 5 or 6 instances of VSCode at the same time on my primary monitor is a window management nightmare, because I have to hunt and peck everytime I press Win+Tab or Alt+Tab. It's mind boggling that Microsoft is this stupid. :x

Thats one for the devs to answer but if you want a DF taskbar on your primary screen then that can be done through the settings but you need to set the primary taskbar to auto hide.
I think this post explains it:
https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/anyway-to-make-the-df-pro-taskbar-override-the-windows-taskbar/?ID=3d0cad5b-2ab0-4b2d-acbc-cd2b45389c38
Oct 23, 2021  • #6
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Uriah
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I'll be sure to try it out later today. Hopefully Keith sees this thread so he can chime in. It's extremely disappointing to see Microsoft make such basic mistakes. They should have learned their lesson on this type of non-sense with Windows 8.
Oct 24, 2021  • #7
Alan Wade's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
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I'll be sure to try it out later today. Hopefully Keith sees this thread so he can chime in. It's extremely disappointing to see Microsoft make such basic mistakes. They should have learned their lesson on this type of non-sense with Windows 8.

Forget that link I posted, it is a bit confusing.
Instead set your primary taskbar to autohide.
Right click on the DF icon and select Settings.
Click on Advanced settings.
Look in the Taskbar section for "Show DisplayFusion Taskbar On Windows Taskbar Monitor and click on it.
Set the option to Taskbar is shown on Windows tasbar monitor.
That should work, or at least it did for me.
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Oct 24, 2021  • #8
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hello,

As Alan mentioned, this currently isn't possible on the Windows taskbar, but that advanced setting he posted will add a DisplayFusion taskbar above your Windows taskbar.

We currently don't have a way to completely replace the Windows taskbar with a DisplayFusion taskbar, but we do have this open as a feature request, so I've added your vote.

Thanks!
Oct 25, 2021  • #9
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Tysson
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Whilst running with StartAllBack, this still hasnt been rectified... afaik theres no way to modify to the second screen multi-monitor taskbar to not display wifi/sound as default so that it doesn't create the duplicate bug whilst running both programs which is unfortunate. If i've missed a setting or change that fixes this problem, please enlighten me.
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Jun 22, 2022 (modified Jun 22, 2022)  • #10
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hi Tysson,

If those secondary taskbars are DisplayFusion taskbars, you can disable the system tray icons by right clicking an empty spot on the taskbar > Multi Monitor Taskbar > System Tray Icons > Set that to "Disabled".

Hope that helps!
Jun 23, 2022  • #11
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Blaen
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There's two open source apps that have really really fixed 99% of my UI issues with Win11.
Check out ThisIsWin11 instead of StartAllBack. It is a bit more involved, but comes with handy anti-bloatware stuff along with another project by them LoveWindowsAgain that can tweak it a bit further.
Hope you will find these two apps useful as i have.
I automatically felt disgusted with what windows 11 did to my poor taskbar. It didn't nee to be mutilated like that.
Best of all, it's open source with portable zips if you want it that way. Also not... well what StartAllBack does.

edit.... I'm a fool. Different tools. The startmenu fix i got wasExplorer Patcher
Jul 22, 2022 (modified Jul 26, 2022)  • #12
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V von Histria
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Thanks for this thread, I was looking for this for a while. I was using StartAllBack for ungrouping, but it went rogue on me - possibly because of conflict with the DP. Couple of weeks ago it started acting up, when I right clicked on the start, it would suddenly open about a dozen apps. Or when I touched settings. Had to uninstall it eventually, after trying to re-install and what not.
It however works fine on my other laptop which does not have DP.
Sep 9, 2022  • #13
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banethor
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Is it possible to have the ungrouping work like in Win 10, where it extends beyond just split icons, but full on window descriptions on the taskbar without needing to mouseover as well? Start11 has this feature but unfortunately they also lack a lot of the features DF has... Can't get them to play nice :P
Sep 10, 2022 (modified Sep 10, 2022)  • #14
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We support this on our DisplayFusion taskbars, but there isn't a way to do that on the Windows taskbar via DisplayFusion. As mentioned earlier though, we are looking into getting the main Windows taskbar replaced with a DisplayFusion taskbar, which would make this possible.

Thanks!
Sep 12, 2022  • #15
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banethor
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We support this on our DisplayFusion taskbars, but there isn't a way to do that on the Windows taskbar via DisplayFusion. As mentioned earlier though, we are looking into getting the main Windows taskbar replaced with a DisplayFusion taskbar, which would make this possible.

Thanks!


Hi Owen, I was more referring to DisplayFusion's functionality still differing from Windows 10. While DP taskbars can ungroup applications, it still seems to show them with just the application icon, instead of the full description.

It makes it difficult to multitask as say, if you had 3 word documents open, you would just see 3 word icons and no window titles.
Sep 12, 2022  • #16
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah, you can adjust that by right clicking an empty spot on your taskbar and heading to Multi-Monitor Taskbar > Button Style > Set that to "Icons and Text".

Thanks!
Sep 13, 2022  • #17
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