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Video as wallpaper issues [WIN10]

deltaaaaaaaaaa
3 discussion posts
Greetings, I am having issues using videos as wallpapers, I have tested mp4 mkv and wmv, so far I have had no luck displaying any video. The problem generates a black screen with no movement, I am using windows 10 with all updates installed, and graphics drivers fully updated. If you require a full computer spec log, I will provide one.
Aug 9, 2016 (modified Aug 9, 2016)  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It sounds like you just need to install a codec pack. This one should do the trick!
http://cccp-project.net/

Please let me know if you still run into any trouble at all.

Thanks!
Aug 9, 2016  • #2
huge
6 discussion posts
Having trouble also. Using Windows 10 pro, codecs and active x up to date and working, computer restarted and tried all different types of files (.gif .mpg .mp4 .avi .vob .mts etc) tried all three background modes, tried different sizing entries, no preview even shows up and when applied screen remains blank. Running three monitors (and, yes, I've tried running on all three monitors. tried it with slideshow enabled/disabled, tried it with "don't stretch smaller images checked and unchecked. Any ideas?
Aug 10, 2016  • #3
deltaaaaaaaaaa
3 discussion posts
I installed a codec pack (cccp) and still it doesn't work. When I try to set a video I get a black screen and my main monitor goes grey. I have to uninstall displayfusion and reinstall otherwise this "grey screen" show up when displayfusion loads and tried to apply settings. Any advice?

EDIT
It appears that the feature works if loading videos from the same harddrive that displayfusion is installed on, it would be nice if it could play videos from the second or third drive, just wanted to let you guys know how to address this bug.

EDIT2
Nevermind, it is still borked

EDIT3
Things that work!
>display different images | single videos selected
>display different images | slideshow with ignore timer enabled

Things that don't work!
>display same image on both monitors | any video configuration

EDIT4
Nothing really seems to work when I try to enable video, the primary monitor goes crazy flickering and colours. I guess ill have to wait till next patch to use this feature. For some reason the video feature does work *sometimes* on the secondary monitor but can still bug out quite often.
Aug 10, 2016 (modified Aug 10, 2016)  • #4
deltaaaaaaaaaa
3 discussion posts
bump, this hasnt been addressed yet.
Aug 11, 2016  • #5
Poneyy
2 discussion posts
Same here, work before Anniversary win10 update, and now doesn't work...

I've reinstall all my PC (formatting) with newer ISO of win10, install codec but nothing. . .

I think it's a problem with current version. . .
Aug 14, 2016  • #6
huge
6 discussion posts
Here are my log files as requested
• Attachment [protected]: DebugInfo.html [157,764 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusion.log [7,123,381 bytes]
Aug 16, 2016  • #7
Poneyy
2 discussion posts
Problem solved for me with the new Windows Media Feature Pack (KB3133719) !
Aug 17, 2016  • #8
huge
6 discussion posts
I believe the update you mention is for people running Windows 10 N only
Aug 17, 2016  • #9
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
For anyone still having issues getting the Video wallpaper to work in Windows 10, could you attach a backup of your settings? (Settings > Options > Export)

Thanks!
Aug 19, 2016  • #10
huge
6 discussion posts
in case you didn't get the settings file from separate email, I'm attaching them here (one file with "video" settings, one with normal wallpaper
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusion Backup (2016-08-19 @ 11-09, 8.0.0.0, OFFICE).reg [3,882,318 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: DisplayFusion Backup (2016-08-19 @ 11-18, 8.0.0.0, OFFICE).reg [3,882,370 bytes]
Aug 20, 2016  • #11
Jussi Karjalainen
15 discussion posts
Just to chime in I'm having these issues as well. AVI works at full speed, GIF works but is super slow, and so far nothing else has worked, not WMV, MP4, MPEG, WEBM etc. I just get massive CPU usage and a very sluggish program when trying any of those. I have been using CCCP for years now, and have had no issues with any other player, everything else can run all video types I've come across online properly.

The other formats are a bit meh for me, but getting WEBM to work would be a godsend.

EDIT: FWIW running the CCCP function "Repair CCCP" which essentially sets it back to default and is very nearly the same thing as reinstalling it didn't help with the issue.

EDIT2: Just did some StaxRip experiments, it's not just the encoding that plays into it, the container affects things do. I re-encoded the same file twice with the same XviD codec settings, once as a plain AVI file, once as an MKV container. The AVI file worked, the MKV container didn't. And as mentioned earlier I have no problems running MKVs elsewhere.

EDIT3: Same for MP4 container, the same exact XviD settings in StaxRip produce an AVI that works, and an MP4 file that doesn't.
Aug 28, 2016 (modified Aug 28, 2016)  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Jussi: Which version of Windows are you running?
Aug 30, 2016  • #13
huge
6 discussion posts
Windows 10 pro. for me it appears that going into " Windows Settings app, and go to “Ease of Access > Other Options" and selecting (checking) "play Animations in Windows" solved my problem
Aug 30, 2016  • #14
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Excellent!
Aug 31, 2016  • #15
Jussi Karjalainen
15 discussion posts
@Keith: Windows 10 Pro. FWIW I already have "Play animations in Windows" turned on, still suffering from anything that's not AVI or WMV (those actually do work now) not functioning properly in DisplayFusion while working perfectly elsewhere.
Sep 5, 2016  • #16
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Jussi: Thanks! That still sounds like a codec issue to me. Couple of follow-up questions:
  • Are you running Windows 10 32-bit or 64-bit?
  • If it's 64-bit Windows, do you have the 64-bit version of CCCP installed?
  • Do you use a default install of CCCP? If not, can you tell me what settings you change during installation?
Sep 8, 2016  • #17
Jussi Karjalainen
15 discussion posts
@Keith: Thanks for specifying that CCCP 64bit might make a difference, I wouldn't have guessed that because it makes no difference anywhere else. I did indeed have the 32bit CCCP installed (IIRC the 64bit MPC HC had some issues in the past) and uninstalling that and replacing it with the 64bit version got it working. Wonder why that made a difference for DF though when no other program seems to mind.

Oh well, glad it's sorted. Now just gotta wait until you can get the randomisation working for videos. =)
Sep 8, 2016  • #18
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear that fixed it! It makes a difference for DisplayFusion because DisplayFusion is a 64-bit application. 32-bit applications need the 32-bit codecs, and 64-bit apps need the 64-bit codecs. I believe you should be able to install both versions of CCCP, so that all apps will work, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Sep 8, 2016  • #19
Jussi Karjalainen
15 discussion posts
Quote:
Glad to hear that fixed it! It makes a difference for DisplayFusion because DisplayFusion is a 64-bit application. 32-bit applications need the 32-bit codecs, and 64-bit apps need the 64-bit codecs. I believe you should be able to install both versions of CCCP, so that all apps will work, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Makes sense then, though I was under the impression that some of my other apps were indeed 64-bit versions, but I guess not.

Also just noticed that not only do the transitions not work when using videos (which is known of course) but that the transitions don't get reactivated after switching back to normal image backgrounds either, I need to cycle the setting to get them to work again.
Sep 9, 2016  • #20
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
When I tested that here, it re-enabled automatically for me. Were you switching the wallpaper source from videos to images on the same Wallpaper Profile, or changing from a Wallpaper Profile with videos, to a Wallpaper Profile with images?
Sep 9, 2016  • #21
Jussi Karjalainen
15 discussion posts
I used a keyboard shortcut to change to a different profile.
Sep 9, 2016  • #22
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! That seems to be the trick. I was able to reproduce it by switching to a non-videos profile using a hotkey instead of the Desktop Wallpaper window. I've added this to our list to fix up
Sep 13, 2016  • #23
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Jussi: We've just released a new DisplayFusion beta version (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/) and this issue should be all fixed up. Please let us know if you run into any trouble after updating.

Thanks!
Oct 8, 2016  • #24
Gareth Abrahams
1 discussion post
Hi Everyone,
I was having this issue and found that going to the windows setting app, ease of access, other options, play animations in windows. It was set to on. However when reading this thread, I changed it to off, then back to on and it seem to do a little refresh spasm and started working again.
Gotta love Microsoft...
Oct 14, 2016  • #25
Mike Wilder
8 discussion posts
Quote:
@Jussi: We've just released a new DisplayFusion beta version (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/) and this issue should be all fixed up. Please let us know if you run into any trouble after updating.

Thanks!


THanks for the Beta update. The videos now play randomly. However when I come back to the computer after the screensaver has been on the videos no longer play. Just a blank screen. I am running windows 10 with the latest updates. The problem was there before the last big windows update.

No other issues so far.
Oct 15, 2016  • #26
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
When this happens, if you just open the wallpaper window and click Apply, do the videos start playing again?
Oct 18, 2016  • #27
Mike Wilder
8 discussion posts
Think I tried that and had no effect. I'll try next time and also see what I can do to start it without restarting the program and let you know.
Oct 18, 2016  • #28
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sounds good, thanks!
Oct 19, 2016  • #29
Jussi Karjalainen
15 discussion posts
Quote:
@Jussi: We've just released a new DisplayFusion beta version (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/) and this issue should be all fixed up. Please let us know if you run into any trouble after updating.

Thanks!
Hi Keith,

I've now updated to the beta version and both the randomization and transitions when switching back to normal wallpapers seems to be working. Huzzah! My thanks to the team for making the already best product even better. =)
Oct 19, 2016  • #30
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear it!
Oct 20, 2016  • #31
Mike Wilder
8 discussion posts
Quote:
When this happens, if you just open the wallpaper window and click Apply, do the videos start playing again?


Ive tried this and also going in to the video wallpaper settings and clicking use these settings and nothing happens.

To only way I can get it to work without restarting the program is to reset the settings and add the folders back.

I have the latest Beta update and running Windows 10
Oct 21, 2016  • #32
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, thanks! Does the computer also go into sleep mode before this happens? Or just the screen saver? And do you have it set to lock the computer on screen saver?
Oct 21, 2016  • #33
Mike Wilder
8 discussion posts
Quote:
Ok, thanks! Does the computer also go into sleep mode before this happens? Or just the screen saver? And do you have it set to lock the computer on screen saver?


The screen saver isn't locked. I tried the pc in sleep mode and without and still the same issue.

Mike
Oct 24, 2016  • #34
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, would you be able to send a debug log? Here are the steps:
  • On the Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal"
  • Restart DisplayFusion
  • Reproduce the issue and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Send us the DisplayFusion.log and DebugInfo.html files (can be found by clicking the Open Log button on the Troubleshooting tab)
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log
Oct 26, 2016  • #35
me76
1 discussion post
Actually it is working fine for me but for some videos haali media splitter starts working and only audio works and screen becomes blank.
Jan 22, 2019  • #36
jjjjjj
70 discussion posts
I'm not getting video wallpapers to work either with an mp4. I remember trying one other file of a different format and that worked, but I'm away from my computer at the moment and don't remember what format it was. I'm trying to avoid installing cccp as I have lav/madvr set up on this machine and don't want anything interfering with that.
Jan 26, 2019  • #37
V@no
71 discussion posts
What does DF rely on? If a video plays in Windows Media player, should DF play it too?
May 22, 2020  • #38
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
In theory, yes, but I'm not 100% sure how it all works behind the scenes, I'll have to check in with our developers. What type of video file are you trying to use?
May 22, 2020  • #39
V@no
71 discussion posts
Quote:
What type of video file are you trying to use?
No particiluar video, just tried add a folder where all my photos and videos are (from different video cameras/phones), and a single video file from that folder. Also, I have this in Info tab:

Code


When source selected as "video" that tab become disabled (cannot edit), however it still displays "Filename:" on screen with black background. The actual filename only displayed if slideshow disabled and a single file selected.

Windows 10 1909 bild 18363.836 x64
DF 9.7 Beta 14
May 22, 2020  • #40
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
If you try the attached video file, does it do the same thing?
• Attachment: Wildlife.wmv [26,246,026 bytes]
May 22, 2020  • #41
V@no
71 discussion posts
No, still not showing it, just black background.
May 22, 2020  • #42
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
If you go to Windows Settings > Ease of Access, are the "Show animations in Windows" and "Show desktop background image" options enabled?
May 22, 2020  • #43
V@no
71 discussion posts
"Show animations in Windows" was disabled.
After enable it, it started playing videos.

Would it be possible make DF be independent from these settings?
May 22, 2020  • #44
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Unfortunately not. The method we need to use to show video on the desktop gets disabled by Windows if that "Show animations" option is disabled
May 22, 2020  • #45
V@no
71 discussion posts
I see. Maybe it would be a good idea display a warning if anything that DF required is disabled or not available.
May 22, 2020  • #46
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
That is a good idea, yep! I've added that to our list, and if we're able to check that value, we should be able to show a warning

Thanks!
May 22, 2020  • #47
V@no
71 discussion posts
A bit of experiments in SystemPropertiesPerformance window (type that command in start menu) the only option that seems to affect video wallpaper is "Animate controls and elements inside windows", the rest of them can be disabled if needed.

[EDIT]
So now I have a few questions/issues:
  • 1) when folder selected, how do we skip to next video? load next slideshow command doesn't seem to work.

  • 2) I'm using this script with one line modified to minimize window instead of focus (
    BFS.Window.Focus(windows[0]);
    replaced with
    BFS.Window.Minimize(windows[0]);
    ). When cursor is over desktop, executing that script hides all icons and stops video wallpaper - black screen. Restore icons can be done via ALT+TAB. However that does not seem to restore video wallpaper. I have to open wallpaper settings, disable video, than enable it again. Is there an easier way restore video wallpaper?

  • 3) Most settings in "Monitor Settings" section of wallpaper window are greyed out, but if "Show info" was enabled before "My Videos" source was selected, it will display some info on desktop even though user unable change anything in that tab. Most tags regarding the wallpaper file don't work, but
    <wp-filename>
    works only when slideshow disabled.

  • 4) after computer woke up from sleep, video freezes and the only way revive it, is to disable video wallpaper and enable it again.
• Attachment: SystemPropertiesPerformance.png [14,758 bytes]
SystemPropertiesPerformance.png
SystemPropertiesPerformance.png
May 23, 2020 (modified May 23, 2020)  • #48
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
  • The "load next" command will only work if "Ignore walllpaper change timer" is disabled in the Video Wallpaper settings window.
  • I've updated that script to exclude the desktop window class, if you re-download it, that should hopefully fix this issue.
  • I can't seem to reproduce this issue here, when using single or folder for My Videos, the Image Info is always hidden. Could you send me a screenshot of what you're seeing?
  • I can't seem to reproduce this sleep issue either. Does the whole computer sleep, or just the monitors?
May 27, 2020  • #49
V@no
71 discussion posts
Quote:
The "load next" command will only work if "Ignore walllpaper change timer" is disabled in the Video Wallpaper settings window.

That's kind of weirdly unnecessary limitation...

Quote:
I've updated that script to exclude the desktop window class, if you re-download it, that should hopefully fix this issue.
The problem isn't the script, the problem is what happens to video wallpaper when desktop gets minimized/crashes...

Quote:
I can't seem to reproduce this issue here, when using single or folder for My Videos, the Image Info is always hidden. Could you send me a screenshot of what you're seeing?
I just noticed, the info shows briefly and then disappears when video wallpaper first activated, but after hitting apply button again, it displays permanently. Also note, after playing single video file and then enabling slideshow, the info still shows filename of previous single file.

Quote:
I can't seem to reproduce this sleep issue either. Does the whole computer sleep, or just the monitors?
whole computer. Try a long video. After computer wakes up video plays very choppy for a few seconds, even though CPU/hard drive is not overloaded, than it plays ok for a while and finally freezes. Once that happend, hitting apply button in DF wallpaper window does nothing.
• Attachment: DF_video.png [570,896 bytes]
DF_video.png
DF_video.png
May 27, 2020  • #50
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Strange! I noticed in your screenshot that the video isn't stretching to fit the entire desktop. What's the screen resolution of that monitor?
May 28, 2020  • #51
V@no
71 discussion posts
It's 1600x1200 (4:3) monitor.

Was it supposed to cut off part of video and remove black bars? If so, would be nice have it as an option
May 28, 2020  • #52
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah ok, I see now. I thought that it was supposed to stretch the videos but I was mistaken. When I test with your resolution, I can see the image info now as well, because the video isn't filling the desktop.

I've added that to our list to fix up!
Jun 1, 2020  • #53
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I haven't been able to reproduce the issue with the video not playing when waking from sleep, but if I can get it to happen here after further testing, we'll add that to our list as well.

Regarding the "next video" function not working, I'm checking in with our devs on that.
Jun 1, 2020  • #54
imgaijin's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I am also having trouble playing video wallpaper. I can ply .wmv; however .mp4 file shows a black image. The codec from CCCP Project is dead. What is the alternative?
* Show animations in windows is On
Imgaijin
Jun 9, 2020  • #55
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
There's a mirror available for CCCP here: https://download.cnet.com/developer/cccp-project/i-10054114

Hope that helps!
Jun 10, 2020  • #56
imgaijin's profile on WallpaperFusion.com
The CCCP codec didn't work for me. However, this LAV codec worked. Not sure why the first didn't work. Both look similar.
Imgaijin
Jun 10, 2020  • #57
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear it, thanks! I'll update the link in the video wallpaper guide to point to the LAV codecs.
Jun 10, 2020  • #58
Varstahl
4 discussion posts
I'm having the same issues but I haven't been able to figure out this one yet. I've used an AVI (maybe uncompressed, don't remember), and the playback works, but if I try with an MP4 it just refuses to. The MP4s I've tried have been AVC1 H.264, and HEVC.

Status:
  • Display Fusion 9.7
  • Windows 10 x64 (20H2, 19042.685)
  • ✓ Show animations in Windows
  • ✓ Show desktop background image
  • ✓ Videos play in WMP

The issue was always present, even in previous builds. Even though they work correctly in WMP I've tried the LAV codecs with no success, both x86 and x64, to no use. Anything else I can try?

Also there's a pretty annoying glitch involving video wallpaper switches, where video repetitions start getting delayed with a blank screen in between, more and more, and that affects even static wallpapers. But I'll open a separate thread/file a bug report for this later.
Dec 24, 2020  • #59
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Varstahl: Would you be able to attach one of the videos that isn't working so that I can test it out here?
Dec 29, 2020  • #60
Varstahl
4 discussion posts
Sure thing. I scaled it down to keep the size small, and also attached a screen of WMP playing it back.

Also, as for the bug I mentioned, I guess it solved itself, as it's no longer possible to re-activate "Use the same image on each monitor" if one of the monitors has a video instead. That used to cause massive headaches.
• Attachment [protected]: dftest.mp4 [1,070,128 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: dftest.png [274,161 bytes]
Dec 29, 2020  • #61
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! After I install the LAV Filters from here, that video works for me as the desktop wallpaper. Do you have your background set to "Show different image on each monitor"?
Dec 30, 2020  • #62
Varstahl
4 discussion posts
In doubt, I followed your link and tried to install the megamix with everything in it, just to be sure, and it still doesn't work. There must be something more to this, I'll see if I figure out what.

Code



Not a huge success so far.
Dec 30, 2020 (modified Dec 30, 2020)  • #63
Varstahl
4 discussion posts
Ok, I'm at my wit's end, the AVI that *definitively* was working in 9.7, and that I saved as a separate wallpaper profile, doesn't really work anymore.

Edit: I'm still not 100% sure of what the problem was, but it indeed seemed to be a problem with my machine. I've installed just the video part from the LAV Filters 0.7.4.1-x64 zip package, reset all the policies on my PC to factory settings, reboot, reimported the policies settings, and now everything works fine. Sorry for the confusion, this had me stunned for a while, and thanks for the help
Dec 30, 2020 (modified Dec 30, 2020)  • #64
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No worries, glad to hear it's all good now
Jan 6, 2021  • #65
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