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Aegis
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I gave DF a try through just to see what it has to offer (very shocked, TBH, that there aren't many window managers for a Windows 7 x64 rig out there)

Suffice it to say, I'm VERY impressed. I'm on the verge of a purchase, but 2 things I'm rather interested in might be missing (or maybe I'm not seeing them, as that there are a plethora of options in DF!)

[size=18pt]MY SETUP[/size]

I have 2 monitors:

Monitor 1 : 1920x1200
Monitor 2 : 1600x1200

Usually, for me, Monitor 2 is powered down when not in use rather than left on all day.

[size=18pt][color=blue]SUGGESTION 1: MONITOR LOCKING[/color][/size]

Problem: When Monitor 2 is off, it's annoying that the cursor can wander off Monitor 1 and into Monitor 2's desktop space, leaving me without a visible cursor. It takes flailing around to finally get the cursor seen on Monitor 1.

Suggestion: Add toggling functionality (would be even better if it remembered the last mode you had it set to between restarts and started in that mode) where you can enable/disable the mouse being able to move to particular monitors. This would allow me to power down a monitor, turn on "MONITOR 1 LOCK" (to lock the cursor to monitor 1) and then see that my mouse could only move around in monitor 1. If I turn on Monitor 2, I can toggle off MONITOR 1 LOCK to allow my cursor to go over to Monitor 2. For obvious reasons, it would not allow both monitors to be locked at the same time.

[size=18pt][color=blue]SUGGESTION 2: MODAL CENTERING TO PARENT APPLICATION[/color][/size]

Problem: Though a program may run in a monitor, many times it will open modals in other monitors. This is very annoying if you're running an app in Monitor 1 and Monitor 2 is off, but the program opens a modal on Monitor 2 nonetheless, requiring you to power on Monitor 2 just to move the modal back over. If you move the app from Monitor 1 to Monitor 2, many times the modals that were opening on Monitor 1 will continue to do so even though the application is now on Monitor 2.

Suggestion: Add a feature which allows you to REPOSITION MODAL ON: and they can select from:
Move to Application's Display (Moves modal to display the parent app is in)
Move to Cursor's Display (Moves modal to display the cursor is currently in)
Move to Monitor1 (Moves modal to monitor 1)
Move to Monitor2 (Moves modal to monitor 2)

As well as an option you can turn on/off which, after moving the modal, centers is to the display:
[X] Center Modal after moving

Preferably, I'd rather this feature function globally, but if you wanted to enable/disable it for a user-controlled list of applications, that'd be fine (so it affects only certain apps that seem to have the issue)

That's it, really. I couldn't think of anything else, because, well, DF pretty much already does it! lol. Again, great app!
May 3, 2011  • #1
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Kevin F.
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1: Already in. togglable via hotkey or titlebar icon.
2. Also working in some form, there are hotkeys to move windows to other monitors, as long as the modal is the current window when it opens, you can hotkey it back without seeing it.
though I would like for #2 to be made much nicer, having to do that every time winrar opens is getting annoying.

Make sure to look through the betas for features you might be looking for, theres a hefty slew of new ones in each update.

And as I tell everyone else thats "on the verge", theres not only a trial version, but most useful ideas will be aded if posted, and if they aren't either they aren't useful or just plain impossible, so you might as well go buy it. DF is by leagues the best out there, both price and quality wise.
May 4, 2011  • #2
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Aegis
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Yeah I actually installed the trial before I made this post, so I got to use it and see what it had to offer (which was why I was so impressed)

Do you mind in showing me where the monitor locking feature is? I guess I over looked it. I had to turn off the titlebar functions because on the programs in question, they were interfering with the actual application's buttons.

Kind of the same deal with modal centering. I found the hotkey to move applications from display to display, but I just wanted the active modal window to be centered automatically without the need to constantly having to press a hotkey.

For those who don't need those 2 suggestions, DF seems to already have everything else they could want, and is well worth the money; but I've been looking around for any program than can do those 2 things specifically (and there are none), so if/when DF does do them, then on the verge I shall be no more.
May 4, 2011  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Hi Aegis,

The hotkeys for locking the mouse cursor to a specific monitor or focused window are in the latest 3.3.1 Beta versions, which you can download from here: http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

As for the modal windows, I will add the request to our feature request list, and if we'll see if we can add it in.

Thanks!
May 4, 2011  • #4
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I should have clarified a bit more about the mouse locking settings actually... After you install the latest 3.3.1 beta, do the following to enable the mouse locking hotkey:

  • Go to the DisplayFusion settings
  • Click the HotKeys tab
  • Double click the "Lock/Unlock Mouse Cursor..." option that you would like to set
  • Select a key combination and click OK
  • Click OK again

Also on a side note, if the TitleBar buttons are overlapping other ones, you can adjust the "TitleBar Buttons: Horizontal Offset" in the Advanced Settings. More details on that setting are here: http://www.displayfusion.com/AdvancedSettings/#titlebarbuttons-horizontaloffset
May 4, 2011  • #5
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Or more specifically since it seems your saying its only one app doing it, you can use compatibility settings to move the titlebar buttons for that one app instead of a global override :)
May 4, 2011  • #6
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Yep you could definitely do that on the Compatibility tab.

Thanks Kevin!
May 4, 2011  • #7
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Aegis
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Thanks for the feedback Keith.

My bad, I didn't install the Beta, but I'm glad to see it has mouse locking. Wow, this little app has just about everything. I see you have an RSS feed on the site, so I'll subscribe to it (hopefully it has news about beta features as well as latest stable builds) I'm VERY eager to see modal centering. Can't wait to see if it gets added down the line. It's such a small feature but with SUCH A HUGE end result. I'm very surprised Windows didn't come with that kind of functionality built in.

As for the app that was having issues with the title bar buttons (I saw that offset you spoke about-nice touch, btw) but as I recall, the buttons VISUALLY on the titlebar were not where their hit areas were. I would mouse over an area that has no button, and it would register a mouse over on one of the buttons. Kinda funky, but again, it only had issues on 1 app.

The program in question that gives me the most grief is Adobe Photoshop CS5. I use this app like 2-4+ hours a day (freaking LOVE it) and maximizing my workspace efficiency is top priority to me.
May 4, 2011  • #8
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Well in that same vein you can just turn off the titlebar buttons for that one program. Or make a bug report.

I'd make a bug report. It will be relayed to you whether or not it can be fixed.
May 4, 2011  • #9
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Interesting! I've just tested 3.3.1 Beta 14 with Photoshop CS5 and the TitleBar buttons seem to be ok. I did need to adjust the offset a bit, but as for the mouseovers, everything seems to work as expected for me.

Could you update to 3.3.1 Beta 14 and try it out again? If they are still showing the same behaviour, please take a screenshot that includes the mouse cursor so that I can see where the cursor is when the button mouseovers are being triggered.

Thanks!
May 5, 2011  • #10
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Aegis
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Keith. The copy I used was NOT the beta. I'm glad to hear that it does address PS CS5 though. Would also give me a chance to try out the monitor locking it has. If you want, I'll reinstall the trial (beta this time) and see if everything's good to go.
May 5, 2011  • #11
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Well, Keith, I installed the Beta, and it says that I must upgrade to the PRO version in order to use monitor locking, so I can't test that for you, sorry.
May 6, 2011  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No problem, you can request a trial key to test out the Pro version from here if you like: http://www.displayfusion.com/Trial/
May 6, 2011  • #13
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OK, I requested a key. Will try it out once it comes in and let you know, thanks.
May 6, 2011  • #14
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No problem, sounds good!
May 6, 2011  • #15
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Aegis
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This isn't an automated process.... is it?
May 7, 2011  • #16
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Aegis
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I'm guess this isn't a process where you request one online and then get it immediately, right? It requires intervention on your side first, no? Cause I'm still waiting on the code (not to sound rude/impatient, just looking for clarification)
May 7, 2011  • #17
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
It should be automatic. Could you send me the email address you used to request the trial key? Send it to support@binaryfortress.com or PM me.

Thanks!
May 9, 2011  • #18
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Aegis
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Looks like the license came. When I get home I will try it out and let you guys know. Thanks for the help.
May 9, 2011  • #19
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No problem! Let me know if I can help with anything else.

Thanks!
May 9, 2011  • #20
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OK, tested it out at home.

With Monitor 2 off, it doesn't seem to work. Cursor moves to Monitor 2's desktop and doesn't stay locked in Monitor 1.

With the Monitor 2 powered ON, it DOES work. It actually moves to Monitor 2, but doesn't go more than 1 cursor's length in (which is fine by me).

I take it there's no way to determine when a monitor is powered off eh? Odd that Windows would extend the current desktop to one that doesn't "exist" when the Monitor is powered off.
May 10, 2011  • #21
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Yeah, unfortunately we can't detect when monitors are powered off as DisplayFusion relies on Windows to tell it what monitors are connected and enabled. Windows definitely has issues detecting whether certain monitors are connected or not. I find that it's usually better when the monitor is connected through a digital connection like DVI, DisplayPort, or HDMI.
May 10, 2011  • #22
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Aegis
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Well.

My big concern was turning on the Cintiq and leaving the same BG on all day long if I wasn't gonna use it. But I guess I could use the per-screen screensaver feature and then monitor lock the mouse since both are on. That would solve that issue, except I'd still need the modal centering feature.
May 15, 2011  • #23
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Yep, the modal centering is on our feature request list.

As for the screen locking, now that I've tested it a bit more, it should be locking your cursor to the current monitor regardless of whether the other monitor is powered on or not.

Could you send the info from the Troubleshooting tab, along with a screen shot of your Windows display settings to me at support@binaryfortress.com?

Thanks!

EDIT: I forgot to mention, you can run the screensaver on one screen, but the other will blank out as well. Unfortunately we can't fix that so it's not really an option in your case. Hopefully we can resolve your screen locking issue though :)
May 16, 2011  • #24
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Thanks Keith. Couple that with the recent sale and I repurchased the software.

I simply can't wait for modal centering! This program is a godsend. Everyone and it's production should be proud of themselves and they each have my thanks.

You guys are fantastic.

PS - I tested the Monitor locking with monitor powered off on the latest build when I installed my license, and I'm sorry to say, but...

IT WORKS! :) Great job. Now I can use monitor locking while Monitor 2 is off! This is fantastic!
May 28, 2011  • #25
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Awesome, glad to hear it!

Thanks for the kind words!
May 30, 2011  • #26
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've just released DisplayFusion 5.1 Beta 6 (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/), and there's now an option on the Settings > Window Management tab to automatically move child windows to the parent window :)

Thanks!
May 27, 2013  • #27
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