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itsbenchang
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I tried to search and google for a fix, I haven't been able to find a solution.

When playing in a full screen window game, the taskbar will appear on top of the game window.
Battlefield 4 and Starcraft 2 both have this issue. I believe it's display fusion taskbar.
In World of Warcraft, the displayfusion taskbar is hidden and the windows taskbar is shown. If I alt tab, I can't get the display fusion taskbar to come back while World of Warcraft is running.

Battlefield 4
http://i.imgur.com/jPZ94HJ.jpg

Stacraft 2
http://i.imgur.com/fEAIHNo.jpg

Wow
http://i.imgur.com/6Ty2p9a.jpg

Wow Alt tabbed
http://i.imgur.com/Raek1Q2.jpg
Jan 11, 2014 (modified Jan 11, 2014)  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
When you've got one of these windowed games running, could you check the Settings > Troubleshooting tab, and see if the game is listed under the "FullScreen Applications" section? Even though it's not true full screen, DisplayFusion should still be detecting it as such, and forcing the taskbar to the bottom. I suspect that they may not be getting detected as full screen for some reason.
Jan 14, 2014 (modified Jan 14, 2014)  • #2
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itsbenchang
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World of Warcraft is detected as fullscreen.
Battlefield 4 and Starcraft 2 are not detected as fullscreen.

Is there a way I can manually select which programs to be as fullscreen or not?
Jan 15, 2014  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
There isn't unfortunately. We'll investigate further to try and figure out why the games aren't getting detected as full screen.

As an aside, I noticed in the WoW screenshot that the DisplayFusion taskbars are hidden, but the Windows taskbar is sitting on top of the WoW window. If you exit DisplayFusion, does the Windows taskbar still sit on top of the WoW window?
Jan 15, 2014  • #4
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itsbenchang
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I closed displayfusion and the windows taskbar was on top of the window.

What's weird was when I first loaded the game, I noticed that the taskbar wasn't on top of the window. Only until I alt+tabbed out the taskbar was on top from then on.

I think this is now the windows taskbar causing issues. I googled for methods to put the taskbar on bottom.
I found a program called Win7 Taskbar Masher. This allows any program to be above the taskbar. I can use this as a band-aid fix.

Battlefield 4 has the middle taskbar missing while the left and right taskbar as visible. When I alt+tab out the middle taskbar comes back on top and stays there.
If I run the win7 taskbar masher, it'll hide the middle taskbar behind the game window.

Would it be possible to add a feature to display fusion similar to the win7 taskbar masher?
Here is a link to the program www.csparks.com/Win7TaskbarMasher/
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Jan 16, 2014  • #5
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We might be able to do that, yeah, but we'll also look into fixing it up proper so that the borderless games still get detected as full screen :)
Jan 17, 2014  • #6
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itsbenchang
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If there's any thing else I can do or information you need, please let me know.

Displayfusion is a great program that continues to get better with every issue you guys fix.
Jan 17, 2014  • #7
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Will do, thanks for the kind words!
Jan 17, 2014  • #8
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, we haven't been able to automatically detect some borderless games as full screen, but in the latest DisplayFusion beta (6.0 Beta 8), you can now create a Compatibility rule for the affected games, to force them to be detected as full screen. After creating the rule, make sure to restart the game (if it was open already), and then the taskbar shouldn't sit on top of it any more :)

Please let us know if you still have any trouble.

Thanks!
Jun 8, 2014 (modified Jul 9, 2014)  • #9
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Sakurai Evsa
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I got the same problem too with game protected by GameGuard.
using the compatibly list only works for few second because the game will then missing/hidden from the process list because of GameGuard.
Jul 5, 2014  • #10
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Can you specify the GameGuard EXE in the Compatibility rule instead? DF just needs to detect any application as full screen in order to stop forcing the taskbar to the front.
Jul 7, 2014  • #11
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Sakurai Evsa
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GameGuard has no exe. there is only this GameGuard.des that will run for a fraction of second and then gone from the process list too.
and I have tried to add the GameGuard.des to the compatibility list,
however nothing fixed.
Jul 8, 2014  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
So when Game Guard is running, the game has no process listed in Task Manager at all? Or does it just change it to a different process name maybe?
Jul 9, 2014  • #13
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Sakurai Evsa
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both the game and the gameguard is missing from the process list. its like they where closed.

I am monitoring it with process explorer and still has not see where the application has gone.
However the application is still exists in the Task Manager Application tab, while not in the Processes tab.
it still exists in the taskbar and alt-tab too.

if I Right-click the application in the Applications tab and choose "Go to Process" it will change to Processes tab and select last selected application. :-[

FYI, the game play in my primary monitor while the original windows taskbar in my second monitor.
Jul 10, 2014  • #14
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, the only thing that will probably fix this then, is if we're able to detect "full screen" windowed games as full screen. That's on our list at the moment, but I can't offer an ETA on when we might be able to fix it.

In the meantime, the only workaround I can think of, is to create a Compatibility rule for some other app, like the Windows Calculator to have it always treated as full screen, and then make sure to launch that before you launch your game. I'm not 100% sure if that will work, but again, that's the only thing I can think of :(

We'll definitely let you know if we're able to make DisplayFusion detect "full screen" windowed games as full screen automatically.

Thanks!
Jul 11, 2014  • #15
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Jaga1
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This is still a problem, 1.5 years later, with DF 7.2 and Windows 10.

I'm using NoMousy and WindowedBorderlessGaming with a DX app, and anytime I move the in-app mouse low enough, the Task bar for that monitor pops up in front of the app. I have no way to force it to open behind.

Apparently now in addition to NoMousy I also need a utility app named NoTaskbar. /sigh Wouldn't it be awesome if the functionality of BOTH those utilities was built into DisplayFusion?

At this point, outside of snapping to a monitor and segmenting the taskbar, DF is doing very, very little for me. :(
Aug 30, 2015  • #16
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Jaga1
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More information:

I used CCC and moved the Windows Taskbar to the left monitor only, then used DisplayFusion to create additional Taskbars on center/right monitors. Then I went and created a Compatibility entry for the app I'm using, and enabled "Disable DisplayFusion Taskbars while this application is running".

It had absolutely no effect.

I also attempted to use the "Force DisplayFusion to treat this as a full screen application" switch.

Also - no effect.

Closing WindowedBorderlessGaming and re-testing both switches proved fruitless, the problem remained.

Seems like more than a few bugs remain in DF. If at some point you want to debug and patch this stuff up, I'd be glad to help test. In the meantime - you may want to add them to your Windows 10 issues list, as I can confirm they exist.
Aug 30, 2015  • #17
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qubasiasty
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Download the latest Beta (7.3 Beta 2), it fixed the taskbar issue for me.
Aug 30, 2015  • #18
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Jaga1
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Download the latest Beta (7.3 Beta 2), it fixed the taskbar issue for me.


Did that last night, doesn't work.

The only real solution I found was to unload DisplayFusion, or toggle off it's taskbars manually every time. Not much of a solution I know, but the software features aren't working as designed.
Aug 30, 2015  • #19
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itsbenchang
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Download the latest Beta (7.3 Beta 2), it fixed the taskbar issue for me.


Did that last night, doesn't work.

The only real solution I found was to unload DisplayFusion, or toggle off it's taskbars manually every time. Not much of a solution I know, but the software features aren't working as designed.


So I still never found a fix in displayfusion for this.
I still use the workaround taskbar.exe that hides the taskbar when in a full window mode application.

I don't think the issue is necessarily in displayfusion but the original windows taskbar appears over the application and no the display fusion taskbar.
Aug 31, 2015  • #20
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Jaga1
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Download the latest Beta (7.3 Beta 2), it fixed the taskbar issue for me.


Did that last night, doesn't work.

The only real solution I found was to unload DisplayFusion, or toggle off it's taskbars manually every time. Not much of a solution I know, but the software features aren't working as designed.


So I still never found a fix in displayfusion for this.
I still use the workaround taskbar.exe that hides the taskbar when in a full window mode application.

I don't think the issue is necessarily in displayfusion but the original windows taskbar appears over the application and no the display fusion taskbar.


The Display Fusion Taskbar(s) will also appear *over* the application, even if you setup compatibility mode to treat the app as fullscreen. And currently the same compatibility switch to toggle those taskbars off when the app launches doesn't work for me either.

DF is really in a bad way for me right now with Windows 10. Considering uninstalling it until things are smoothed out.
Sep 1, 2015  • #21
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Can you give the new Beta 3 a try and let me know if it's any better? It improves quite a few things on Windows 10. Thanks!
Sep 1, 2015  • #22
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Jaga1
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Beta 3 is what I've been using for the last 24 hours. It's way buggier than Beta 2 was, still has a large number of problems. I listed several in another topic. Certainly no fix for this problem.
Sep 1, 2015 (modified Sep 1, 2015)  • #23
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you attach a screenshot of the Compatibility rule you setup, as well as a debug log? Just trying to figure out why it's not working, as the rules seem to be working for me here. Here are the steps for the debug log:
  • On the Troubleshooting tab, change the Logging drop-down to "L1: Log Minimal"
  • Restart DisplayFusion
  • Reproduce the issue and note the time so we'll know where to check in the log file
  • Send us the DisplayFusion.log and DebugInfo.html files (can be found by clicking the Open Log button on the Troubleshooting tab)
  • Disable debug logging after sending the log

Thanks!
Sep 9, 2015  • #24
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Allen Lundgren
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Sorry using this older one but problem is still around on Win7 df 7.3.2 . I have used the force as full screen on 2 different games with no effect. World of Warships and Dragon Age Origins both of which did not show in log as full screen.

Date for logs is 23:40 on 11/28/15
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Nov 29, 2015  • #25
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Allen Lundgren
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Sorry using this older one but problem is still around on Win7 df 7.3.2 . I have used the force as full screen on 2 different games with no effect. World of Warships and Dragon Age Origins both of which did not show in log as full screen.

Date for logs is 23:40 on 11/28/15
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Nov 29, 2015 (modified Nov 29, 2015)  • #26
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
In your DebugInfo.html, it seems to be showing World of Warships in the "Full Screen Applications" section. What issue are you running into with the game?
Dec 1, 2015  • #27
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Allen Lundgren
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Windows Taskbar and DF taskbar are always active in windowed full screen games. specifically World of Warships and Dragon Age Origins. I have 4 monitors with 3 setup in Nvidia Surround so the 4th monitor I use as my desktop for browser and teamspeak in order to keep game active and use the 4th most games have to be run in windowed mode. This is why I bought DF to control taskbar on 4th monitor. I now use Windowed Borderless gaming product for the games that dont support this mode.

FullScreen Applications [1]

0x00040b24 ~ {X=0,Y=0,Width=7680,Height=1080} ~ CompatibilityRule ~ "World of Warships" ~ "App" ~ "D:\Games\World_of_Warships\WorldOfWarships.exe"

This is from the compatibility rule i made without that they are not detected in log as fullscreen . With the rule the windows taskbar/middle monitor of 3 is not acting as if the the game is full screen(that is it will pop up when mouse goes there) but the DF taskbars on the other monitors are hidden.
Dec 2, 2015 (modified Dec 2, 2015)  • #28
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ah ok, that makes sense. DisplayFusion can't control what happens with the Windows taskbar on the middle monitor. There isn't even a way to manually force the Windows taskbar to the bottom :(

You can try replacing the Windows taskbar with the DF taskbar, by following the steps in post #6 here: https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/anyway-to-make-the-df-pro-taskbar-override-the-windows-taskbar/?ID=3d0cad5b-2ab0-4b2d-acbc-cd2b45389c38#6. Please note that it's not a supported feature though.
Dec 2, 2015  • #29
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Allen Lundgren
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Thanks Keith for you always timely and helpful support.

Please forward this to your manager.
Dec 3, 2015  • #30
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
No worries, glad to hear it! I'll pass it along :)
Dec 3, 2015  • #31
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Krosara
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Hello, after doing the fix that you have to disable the windows taskbar and use display fusion task bars only, the windows button on all my taskbars does nothing. This is on windows 10. The windows key on my keyboard still works to bring up the start menu though.

Thanks
Feb 10, 2016  • #32
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Krosara: I'll test it out here to see if there's anything we can do. Could you attach a copy of your troubleshooting info?
  • Open the Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Copy to Clipboard" button
  • Paste the text into a text file (please don't paste the text directly into your reply, the formatting gets garbled and makes it difficult to parse)
  • Reply with the file attached
Feb 12, 2016  • #33
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Jeremy Grenfell16388
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Hey just a thought, is there a way to disable "always on top" for the windows taskbar using scripts? that would theoretically fix the problem, just have it disabled when certain .exe are open or hot key it.
Apr 14, 2016  • #34
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
If you're using Windows 7, it looks like there is a way to do that: http://www.sevenforums.com/customization/44913-disabletaskbarontop-disable-taskbar-always-top.html

But I haven't found a way to do it in Windows 8 or 10, sorry!
Apr 15, 2016  • #35
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Lumonaut
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Sorry to bring this back up but I just got triple monitor Nvidia Surround setup this week and have been searching for answers to this all day. Starting to think it's not possible. Basically, any game I run in windowless fullscreen plays on the center monitor fine, either the DF taskbar shows or a blank (what I presume to be Windows fullscreen taskbar shows). In games like SC2 and LoL that means I can't scroll on the bottom of the screen. Even if I set the Windows taskbar to autohide, when I go to scroll down it pops up of course.

I just bought DisplayFusion today and I'm really hoping I can find a way to fix this eventually. I've tried solutions in 20+ threads. As it stands, it looks like I'm going to be switching between Surround and regular 3 monitor mode when I want to play single monitor games :-/.
Aug 27, 2016 (modified Aug 27, 2016)  • #36
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SaiBork
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Hi Lumonaut, you're probably having the same problem as me and some others. See this topic

Are you using Windows 10? As I think it's an issue with Windows 10's surround mode and not properly handling the taskbar. Hopefully the DF team can fix this, but I think it may be a Windows 10 (Microsoft)/Nvidia issue.
Aug 27, 2016 (modified Aug 27, 2016)  • #37
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Lumonaut
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Hi Lumonaut, you're probably having the same problem as me and some others. See this topic

Are you using Windows 10? As I think it's an issue with Windows 10's surround mode and not properly handling the taskbar. Hopefully the DF team can fix this, but I think it may be a Windows 10 (Microsoft)/Nvidia issue.


Sounds like exactly my issue. Yes I'm on Windows 10. I so hope this can get fixed, either by Nvidia or DF, it's the only thing holding this setup back!
Aug 27, 2016  • #38
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